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Me too. BMWF650 GS dual sport, Honda XR250R, CT90. BTW is this a contest? If so I can submit a list, there are others!. LOL
 

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Update: After studying the print-out from the failed alignment attempt I realized the caster and camber were easily within spec. I don't have any idea how that tech got the idea I needed to take the van to the dealer. The toe, however, was out, but not as expected. Because the steering rack is behind the axle, one would expect the lift to create a small amount of toe-out, but in this case the LF tire was dead on and the RF was slightly toed in! Must have been even more toed in before the lift. I took it to a different shop; they easily adjusted the toe and all is well. Just got back from a 3 week 4180 mile road/camping trip through the 4 corners area and everything worked well.

As for the lift-or-not-to-lift debate, the immediate benefit of raising the front end is a better view down the highway with less hunching over the steering wheel. I'm a 6'1" guy with a tall sitting height and the difference provided by the lift is palpable. And, yes, it does look better. I intend to do the rear leaf removal mod next.

My van is a diesel and the intake plumbing after the charge cooler is precariously exposed and vulnerable under the front end, so the additional clearance provided a bit of reassurance on the deeply rutted Chaco Canyon road, among others. Some sort of additional protection is on the to-do list.

One last note: I appreciate the comments about "real 4WD" rigs for the rough stuff, and carrying a dirt bike. My PM replaces this rig because my traveling companion requires more creature comforts than I do. I appreciate being able to get dressed standing upright though.
 

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Russian Spacers..

I ordered the Russian Spacers and had them installed a couple of weeks ago along with some BFG KO2 245/70/17 tires and wheels . Love them! But like a previous post, I am getting some steering wheel shudder at around 50 MPH. Otherwise it's all smooth. I'm guessing the shutter is due to something in the CV joints being in a new position. The van has just under 40K miles on it now. The other issue that came up is that my trip computer is stuck showing "Average Fuel Consumption" at 4.7MPG. I'm guessing that this might be related to disconnecting the computer near the steering column when the strut was removed. Not sure how I'll get that resolved. All of the other modes work fine.
 

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I just installed the van carpus one and a half inch front lift kit with the airlift 5000 airbags in the rear and I love the set up! I am installing some BFG KO2’S 245/65/17 with black rhino havasu wheels tomorrow. can’t wait to see how it looks!
 

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I ordered the Russian Spacers and had them installed a couple of weeks ago along with some BFG KO2 245/70/17 tires and wheels . Love them! But like a previous post, I am getting some steering wheel shudder at around 50 MPH. Otherwise it's all smooth. I'm guessing the shutter is due to something in the CV joints being in a new position. The van has just under 40K miles on it now. The other issue that came up is that my trip computer is stuck showing "Average Fuel Consumption" at 4.7MPG. I'm guessing that this might be related to disconnecting the computer near the steering column when the strut was removed. Not sure how I'll get that resolved. All of the other modes work fine.

I have the same spacers and don't have an issue. I would double check the balancing of the front tires.
 

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Mine shudders from 50-60 also with no mods just stock. There is a thread dedicated to this problem with a workaround but I can’t remember what it was. I’ll try to find the thread. Bugs me.
 

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It could be something as simple as a missing wheel weight causing the shuddering. I'm assuming you checked all of the lug nuts.
 

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Can anyone shed a little light on this shudder issue? My diesel just started this between 45 and 60 MPH, worse as the load increases. I took the CV joints apart expecting to see some obvious ware but nothing.
 

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Lift kits - na, NO way! Just asking for problems. I know, I know they look so "cool" and you can use oversized tires and climb big rocks with a single bound, but NO! ;)
For us new to the Ram ProMaster world who love being "higher up" while driving is there anything you recommend to accomplish a "lifted" position--short of the "traditional off-road lift". I love how the higher view I have experienced sitting in a sprinter (especially the 4x4) It sounds as if you speak from knowledge as to lift kits being not desirable, can you shed some light on why it is ill advised?
 

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I usually don't comment on lift kits (especially with the truck crowd) but, ...since this is a van forum and not trucks, people may not have a cow over my comments on the holy "lift kit".
Putting spacers in your front struts/springs changes the angle of you CV axles. That limits the amount of travel they have left by putting them closer to the tail end of their travel radius and will wear out/fail quicker.
Another simple issue right off the bat is you are raising the center of gravity of the entire vehicle. Why in the world anyone would want to do that with any vehicle, let alone a big metal box that's already over 9' tall is beyond me. All that to fit marginally larger tires for a whopping additional 1/2" of ground clearance when it's all said and done.
If you look at professional off road vehicles, they keep the vehicle as low to the ground as possible and either enlarge the wheel wells to fit large tires, or design the body and entire vehicle around the drivetrain and rubber. Because all the ground clearance comes from the height of the tires, but they want the vehicle itself as low as possible for center of gravity. From a mechanical advantage standpoint, it's just silly to raise the entire vehicle and take your suspension components out of their optimal performance parameters, to gain 1/2" of ground clearance.
But people do it for looks, so they don't care about that.
You can simply get a better quality tire, in stock size, with the appropriate tread design for your most traveled terrain and your van will be just as capable as someone who stuck shims and blocks in their suspension and stuffed slightly larger tires on.
You will also likely have less failures and your van will handle better.
But if you think it looks cool and don't care, then ignore all that.
 

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You have gone and done it! Oh- now we will go on a huge diversion based on opinion and style. You make good points but won’t change many folks mind. Tonka is the problem. Why did they let us play with those trucks with huge tires anyway?
I grew up on a farm in Vermont and drove everything everywhere and survived 55 mud seasons. I live half the year in one of the best 4wd roaded areas in the country and in northern Mexico as well. I have had a slightly lifted F150 4X4, a stock Suzuki Samurai with slightly oversized tires, and my current a 3rd gen Toyota 4 Runner with 1” lift nobody notices. All have gone everywhere I wanted them too. I have pulled jeeps out as well as many lifted rigs. The most important tool you have is between your ears not under your car.
 

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Oh, I don't intend to change any minds. But if someone is genuinely asking if there's any advantages or disadvantages,..... Or any practical reason for a lift kit at all, I'm happy to answer.
Also, I was young once and had a lifted 89 K5 blazer with mud tires.
Absolutely zero real reason to do it or own other than I played with Tonka trucks as a kid.
Your best advantages in any driving scenario are good tires, good brakes and half a brain.
 
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