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Myth: You need a roof rack for solar panels.

Flexible panels can be attached with no penetrative fasteners (though you still need a cable entry).

You may want a roof rack (you found a great deal on solar panels, you like the look, you do you, etc) but you do not need one for solar.
Good one! Mine are attached with just VHB tape. AM Solar has been doing it that way for years and has good DIY instructions.
 
Plumbing Myths:
You need to install a carbon cartridge filter on the inlet to your water tank port (Camco style). This is wrong headed - it removes the chlorine that is necessary to protect the stored water in your tank. Instead install the filter on the outlet from your tank to protect what you use.

Plumbing MUST be in red and blue PEX to show how cool you are in watching all the videos and a contortionist to get the crimping tool into all those tight places. In reality choose what suits your skill and needs. I use stainless steel braided hose which are super flexible and have screwed fittings for simple install plus as a bonus are easily removable.

Grey water tanks need a big arsed empty port and hose. Wrong - leave the stinky slinky to those who have a black water tank. Most grey water tanks can be emptied using a standard garden hose fitting.
 
Plumbing Myths:
You need to install a carbon cartridge filter on the inlet to your water tank port (Camco style). This is wrong headed - it removes the chlorine that is necessary to protect the stored water in your tank. Instead install the filter on the outlet from your tank to protect what you use.
I use the filter on the outside all the time but I never read it reduces chlorine content until I saw this post. Checked the Camco site and it does indeed reduce Chlorine :(. Stopping use immediately since I want chlorine in the tank to prevent molding. Thanks for posting this.
 
Ever notice how some mistaken ideas just won't die? They take on an air of truth simply by being repeated over and over on the internet (YouTube, etc). Recognizing and disregarding these myths will save you time and money. Here are a few to get started:
  1. Sheet-foam insulation (Poly-iso, XPS, etc) under a plywood floor will get crushed. NO, and there is a ton of real-world experience and published material specs refuting that notion. Think snowshoes and splatchers. And for the same reason, the floor valleys do NOT have to be filled. XPS is preferred for floors since it does not absorb water; poly-iso for walls and ceiling because it withstands higher temperatures. Hydrophobic batting (Thinsulate, Havelock wool, etc) works just as well on walls and ceiling.
  2. Sound deadening mat (Kilmat, Noico, etc) is needed on surfaces that will also be insulated. NO, it isn't. Sure, it makes a noticeable difference before insulation, but it becomes redundant afterwards. Sound deadening mat reduces noise by dampening sheet-metal vibration. Insulation does the same thing when attached to sheet-metal surfaces.
  3. Framing out the walls and ceiling with wood is necessary. NO, it isn't. It reduces valuable interior space. Embrace the curves instead. Finish walls and cabinets can be attached directly to the van's ribs and channels. Select finish wall materials flexible enough to conform to the slight wall and ceiling curves.
  4. Levelling the whole van before beginning the conversion is necessary. NO, unlike a house, the van will not stay level during the conversion process, or afterwards. Instead, use the van’s floor as your reference plane and square everything to it (cabinets, etc). Likewise, suspension alterations to compensate for the van's original rake, i.e., the back being higher than the front, should NOT be undertaken before the conversion is finished, if at all. Added weight from conversion materials and equipment will reduce the rake. Plus, a perfectly level van will only be level on perfectly level camp sites, which are rare.
  5. A Promaster can be transformed into an off-road beast with all the agility of a 4x4. NO, but with realistic expectations, good AT tires, and a cautious, skilful driver, a Promaster is still able to negotiate some pretty rough roads. Also be aware that some forum members have posted having problems with suspension lifts.
  6. Buying and converting a diesel Promaster is a good idea. NO, it's most likely asking for trouble. The diesel version was only produced in limited numbers from 2014 to 2017 before it was discontinued. Its European engine and transmission have never been used in another North American vehicle before or since. Consequently, parts and knowledgeable mechanics are increasingly hard to find. Search this forum to learn more. The gas Promaster is just the opposite. Its engine and transmission are found in many other North American vehicles, most notably the ubiquitous Chrysler/Dodge minivan.
The floor foam getting crushed was super hard for me to believe. Ended up not putting supports, only foam and plywood. Zero issues, super strong
 
You do not need full overland gear (roof rack, side ladders, rear door boxes, lift kits, etc) for a van conversion. These add excessive weight and drag to your build.
Hi,
That sounds more like truth than myth :)

Gary
 
. . . full overland gear (roof rack, side ladders, rear door boxes, lift kits, etc) . . .
If you know ahead of time that you're going to need all that stuff, just go for a 3500 and build storage for it inside the vehicle.

Although, I think some people like all that stuff on the outside of the van simply for the looks. Efficiency? We don't need no stinkln' efficiency!
 
Plumbing Myths:
You need to install a carbon cartridge filter on the inlet to your water tank port (Camco style). This is wrong headed - it removes the chlorine that is necessary to protect the stored water in your tank. Instead install the filter on the outlet from your tank to protect what you use.
I like this type of response. It's helpful to have the first sentence as the Myth and underlined. Then have a sentence or two that explains why the myth is wrong and what can be done. I'd like to use this thread as an educational tool for novice van builders.
 
Discussion starter · #32 ·
Would dual alternators be a good one? It’s a topic I’ve seen come up a bunch of people swearing you need them, but it seems very guided by your needs and not a necessary thing.
The vast majority of us get by just fine with one, so two can't be a necessity unless you have unusual electrical needs. But this thread isn't the place to go into detail.
 
Discussion starter · #35 ·
Myth: you can be happy with just one alternator.
??? The myth would be "you cannot be happy with just one alternator". This is an easy myth to prove false simply because so many of us are happy with just one alternator.

Another angle on the myth: No one needs a second alternator. Most won't need one, but it can be justified in some unusual situations.
 
Thank goodness my van is nearly done. I would be doing everything bass-ackwards. :D

Nearly done means done enough but with plans to finish. I think this is the permanent state of van. Maybe that is the next myth.

Myth: You will finish your van completely and never change anything ever. :D
 
Myth: You will finish your van completely and never change anything ever. :D
Now this myth is the granddaddy of them all!!!!

One reason to waste my days looking at all the wonderful posts on this forum is to devise new plans to alter/modify/fix/change/revise/undo and generally mess around in the PM.
 
Now this myth is the granddaddy of them all!!!!

One reason to waste my days looking at all the wonderful posts on this forum is to devise new plans to alter/modify/fix/change/revise/undo and generally mess around in the PM.
I like to think of it in sigmas:

1 sigma = 68% complete;
2 sigma = 95% complete;
3 sigma = 99.7% complete

I like to think ours is at 2 sigma; it may never get to 3 sigma 😊.
 
You’d think that finishing walls would be part of Stage 1, but after 9 years and 15 cupgolders, I’m just now addressing the walls around the rear side windows. 🙄
Of course you lead the cupholder arms race 😁.

I'm not seeing it as stages, more like an overall measure of completeness. Surely yours is 95% today. Of course it can also regress at any given time if your vision changes!
 
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