There is a guy on this forum who rotated with oil changes and has 110,000 miles on them and still good.

I used to be a guy who never bothered rotating tires on my truck because I use a great tire that can take it. Michelin LTX.

my current GMC came with crap Goodyears that have never been good on any truck I've owned. Well this truck I rotated the Goodyears at every other oil change in hopes they wouldn't scalp the edges and turn to ****. To my surprise I'm getting 55,000 from them.

I will be rotating at oil changes with this van.

 

Wow. I wonder if he has the conti tire. I will be lucky to get 30k. I'm going to swap front to rear to get what I can out of them. The dealer quoted almost 600 for 2 new conti. I'll go to the Michelin ltx as well. I've had great luck with those tires on my Express SRW 12'Box truck.


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The dealer quoted almost 600 for 2 new conti.

Ouch! That's pricey! Tirerack.com has the stock tires for $230 each. Reviews seem to be 50/50 on them from what I've read.

I'll probably go to the Michelin ltx2's when mine are worn out. Lots of positive comments everywhere I look on them.

 

I have 20k on my tires and they are wearing very well. Nice and even. I am going to rotate them tomorrow...

 

I would figure the primary difference in tire life is how they're driven. I've seen some folks that even if they drive 'slow' around town, they take the turns hard. That'll knock tire life down quick.

 

I do drive with "spirit" but seems like the missing pieces are a defective tire IMO. Can't even get them to have a conti rep look at them. I have to handle it myself. Not holding out any hope. Pretty disappointed. I've done the oil changes(2) at the dealer when the oil life monitor came on and neither time was a tire rotation mentioned. I know it's my responsibility. I only looked at tires after the last trip to the dealer to fix multiple nagging issues resulted in a 6 day stay and nothing was fixed that I brought it In for lol. I had the electrical recall done(didn't know about it) an oil change and a sticker. 6 days.

Brought it in that time for squeaky bushings in rear, squeaky brakes, side door that doesn't open sometimes and is hard to close, something rattling in front end, what sounds like a failing wheel bearing in front oh and I failed inspection because when the independent garage plugged into the obd2 port the engine threw engine light and got a rejection due to a communication bus issue.

So I looked hard at truck before I brought it back, found tires going, oil pan leaking, trans pan leaking, low coolant level. They had it for 4 days fixed leaky stuff, greased the side door, swapped rear bushings, tested radiator supposedly tested fine and couldn't duplicate the rest of the issues. Frustration to say the least..


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I do drive with "spirit" but seems like the missing pieces are a defective tire IMO. Can't even get them to have a conti rep look at them. I have to handle it myself. Not holding out any hope.]

Every new vehicle I have ever bought came with a tire manufacturers warranty card in the glove box. Was such a card not in your Promaster? i'd contact Continental directly and start a warranty claim.

 

Again, I'm not a PM owner, just shopping and reading here to check out potential problems/fix's before hand.
You might want to check on any issues of mix, unmatched wheel combos if you decide to replace 2 worn tires with any type different than remaining stock tires.
Our Sprinter I had similar problem after appox. 6 years that side exposed to sun the most the tires were heavily cracked and chunks falling off thread edges.
Sprinters are real fussy about tires with onboard systems: ABS, transmission shift, etc. We just went ahead and replaced all 4 and have gotten about another 5 years so far out of this set. But, we have few miles on our tires, just age and exposure to sun/heat.
"Good Luck!"

 

I'll rotate them then replace all 4 when service life is over.

I have a ProMaster 1500 so looking to use a E rated tire. I know they are lower rated than the factory tire but I have E tires on my other box truck and t has a higher gvw at 9500 so assuming it's good to go.


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Just had my winter tires mounted today. Purchased a set of Bridgestone Blizzak WB965's. LT225/75r16's, E rated. I've been quite happy with other versions of the Blizzaks on other vehicles so decided to give these a try. I know the load rating is a bit lower but I don't plan on carrying enough weight to max them out anyway.

First thing you notice with a soft snow tred is how quiet they are. Compared to the Vancos you feel like you're driving on carpet or something. Smooths out the bumps too.

I know I found the Vancos to be very loud but now realize they must be a very hard compound. That would be one reason folks would get so many miles out of them. I'll most likely loose a bit of mpg with the Blizzaks on but I'll sure enjoy the smooth quiet ride!

 

Just turned 10K miles on my promoter today! My Vanco tires look as new as the day I picked up the van. I expect to get 80k out of them. I will be putting the mounted snows from my Sprinter (oem steel) on in a few days, if the Sprinter rims all fit. I've tried the fronts but not the rears yet.

 

The 1500's are coming with E rated tires now afaikt.


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Yep, no rotation equals no warranty.


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Yep, no rotation equals no warranty.

I'd agree if you were making a claim against wear, but in this case it sounds like a defect. It doesn't cost anything to make the claim. It's worth trying at least.

 

How can they tell?

 

The fronts are 50% worn, the rears look brand new.
I'll get some pictures today if I remember. I still think they're defective with the physical damage to them after 17k. I noticed it at 15.5k. Can't prove it was there earlier.


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Sounds like the front end is out if the front tires are worn out and the rears look like new. All rotation will do is wear them all out faster!

 

One of you might know this: would going to different sized tires front to rear confuse the ABS or the traction control? Just wondering.

 

Would not be a problem at all. Think about how many cars/trucks you see with wheels, tires, suspension modifications. I plan on running larger all terrain tires before I leave for Mexico next year.

 

I would think the computer would not be a happy camper

 

My mechanic recommends 15k for rotation. Im not sure if in going to follow that. It costs me a day of work to have them rotated (not interested in doing it myself). Got into a decent snow storm in cleveland this week, and the tires are the weak link in winter driving it seems. Overall the pm is better than rwd vans, but real snow tires are going to be a must i think.

 

My oil change place rotates tires. I get them done together. It's a good oil change place. Run by ex NASCAR mechanic.

 

But how many of those vehicles have the newer sophisticated computers in them that the new vehicles have?

I could see big problems with ABS, speed sensors, transmission shifting patterns, etc by using different tire sizes front and rear. I'm sure the manufacturer wouldn't approve of the practice and it could potentially void a warrentte claim to boot!

 

Are you serious? How about every other brand new Jeep Wrangler you see has a huge lift with massive tires. You can even see brand new Ram trucks lifted with huge tires at the dealerships.

 

We are comparing apples to oranges. Drastically different sized tires all around wouldn't make any difference, except the speedo would read wrong. But different sized front to rear should trip the traction control. The computer would either see the fronts as reading slow, convincing it that the road was slippery and to pull power. Or if the rears were bigger, the computer might think the rear end was in oversteer, and it would also pull power or fire the ABS in the rear.

Granted, you could always turn off the traction control, but I want all the traction I can get. Solution: same sized tires front and rear.

 

Ah! That's what you were talking about? Different sized tires in the front than the rear?? Wow, I totally missed that. Probably because nobody does it.

 

I've seen a few nuts do it on older junkers.

 

Promaster 2500 159wb, 99% highway driving, loads from 300 to 3600 lbs. I got 119,000 on the front tires, and just changed the rear OEM Continental Vancos at 141,000 miles. Rotations every 15,000 miles.

Since the Promaster is front wheel drive, the front is carrying 3000 pounds, so the front tires wear faster--you definitely need to rotate the tires to get maximum life.

 

I replaced the Continental oem tires with a generic Walmart brand, 115 load index. I initially went to the dealer and ordered the Nexen Rodian because the Mopar parts system showed these to have a 121 load index. But when the tires arrived, I checked the sidewall, and it was a 115. The Walmart tires are $90 each, a lot cheaper than the Nexen tires.

 

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I bought my new PM 3500ext on jan 13. Since then I have driven 5 other new PM's, while mine was in the shop for 70 days! I noticed the Vanco equipped PM ride like crap, and all have a speed sensitive vibration. The one that had Nexen's rode like a dream. It felt a lot like the Michelin LTX2's I always run. I drive 50-60k a year, combined, and have weeded out most of the other brands.
Mich's win, best ride, best handling and if rotated frequently, I have used 5k, I routinely have gotten over 100k on each set. My son got almost 200k on a Land Cruiser. I will be picking up my new PM(gasser) soon, and I hope it comes with the Nexen's. If not, I'll prob sell the Vanco's and but the Mich's.

 

I bought my new PM 3500ext on jan 13. Since then I have driven 5 other new PM's, while mine was in the shop for 70 days! I noticed the Vanco equipped PM ride like crap, and all have a speed sensitive vibration. The one that had Nexen's rode like a dream. It felt a lot like the Michelin LTX2's I always run. I drive 50-60k a year, combined, and have weeded out most of the other brands.
Mich's win, best ride, best handling and if rotated frequently, I have used 5k, I routinely have gotten over 100k on each set. My son got almost 200k on a Land Cruiser. I will be picking up my new PM(gasser) soon, and I hope it comes with the Nexen's. If not, I'll prob sell the Vanco's and but the Mich's.

Wow, excellent news. I'm also a big fan of the Michelin LTX. I'm wearing my Vancos out quick. My jack rabbit starts burned through half the tread in 12,000 miles on the fronts.

I'll be sure to burn them up even quicker now >

 

I got 29000 miles out of Continentals. I just got a set of Michelin LTX MS2 tires today. I will see how they work this winter and how many miles I will get.

 

At 30K miles my Vanco's are more than half worn. I've rotated them (all 5) every 10K miles. I would never replace them with the same tire!