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Can I use a DC-DC charger with a portable power station?

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#1 ·
I have a 2000 WH portable power station that has a LiFePO4 battery. It is more than adequate for my needs. It has an AC input and a solar panel power input. How do I use a DC-DC charger to charge the battery?

TIA
 
#3 ·
Most likely you don't/can't, this has been covered on the forum plenty.

You'll likely end up adding wiring for an inverter installed in the van to mimic the "ac input you would normally use to fast charge" and plug your ac charger into that...

plenty of people around here have purchased large power stations and ask the same exact question.
 
#5 ·
What ever offers the fastest charge time will be most useful to most folks. Most likely that is the AC input, probably offering anywhere from 500-1500 watts depending on model etc.. Other methods of charge are useful but the timelines are longer. He/she/they are probably going to need to install an inverter.

On another note, I recently discovered my Ecoflow Delta Mini 880 watt-hour power station uses the same exact AC power cord as my multi-cooker! Proprietary cord, bah!
 
#6 ·
You have to to boost the voltage up to get those solar generators to accept more power because they're all limited to like 8-10 amps. I have an ecoflow delta 2 and figure it's not worth any effort to DC charge it because it'll only take 500 watts through DC but it'll take 1200 through AC. It's not worth getting a 12 to 48v boost converter to do a dc to dc charge unless you have another reason you want 48v power, and the only reason you'd want to boost to 48 is if you're running a starlink. IMO at that point you might as well wire up a whole standard battery setup.

I have no knowledge of this particular brand, but this is what you'd need to install to do dc to dc charging through a solar generator:
 
#14 · (Edited)
OUKITEL P2001 Portable Power Station 2000W/2000Wh

RV8R-this should be the US version. Not sure where the paperwork that I got is at and I am not sure how much I even received.
Perfect @sands

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So ,, Quick glance

Best Quickest charge of maybe 1100W is the super charge 120vac

So an inverter off your starter battery & the “special charger” gets the power from the inverter & the “super charger” charges up the unit.

The car charger will get you about around 100W

The other methods are 500W


So if you go that route, you want to have your inverter configurable to the 50Hz I guess 🤷‍♂️;

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#15 ·
So @sands

These AIO units are easy ,,, just buy them & wire your van to them, but I am guessing now you see the biggest issue with them ,,, Charging them up from the Van.

The other biggest con in some of them is “they self consume” their battery power to the tune if 33% per day.

Much of the self consumption is the interior inverter or other electronics. It varies from AIO to AIO.

Then there is on many of these AIO the “repairability” of them. If something craps out after warranty can you repair it or is it bricked ?


We had a change in how we use our van, so I simply added a DC2DC charger ,, Problem solved. That is what you get with a DIY individual component system.

The last thing, is the efficiency factor. I charge with 12vdc & use 12vdc. With your AIO, you will PM Van 12vdc ~ 120vac ~ super charger to battery ~ 120vac or 12vdc ,,, 4 power or energy transformations.
 
#16 ·
Well, I wanted to get started and I thought this would be the easiest way to do that. And it was. However, maybe not the smartest in the long run. I can still use the AIO in other ways than the van so it will be ok. Any recommendations for a very simple system? Maybe 400 AH. I could hire someone to install a system, but I would rather do it myself and I have the time. Plus, I would understand how it works and should be able to maintain it.
 
#22 ·
I have a bluetti AC200P. I charge it exclusively from solar and it has worked perfectly for my style of travel. I don't regret buying the all in one system one bit. I would do it again. However, next time I would buy the bluettie ac200max as it has more charging inputs. I still may add the inverter to charge from the alternator at some point. But after a 6 week trip to AK and a 2 week trip to Maine and several rounds of living in the van while building a house it really has proven itself worthy. I even run a 12 volt electric blanket off of it for heat if needed.

I have 525 watts of solar on the roof. 3 175 watt panels wired in series I believe.
 
#23 ·
Sounds great. To me if you have fairly modest needs and don't plan to upgrade these all in one units seem like great, simple solutions.
I built a "component" system but we have very modest usage; less than 1 kw per 24 hour period. We have 200 Ah of heated LiFePO4, 350 W of solar and a combined charger (renogy DCC50). Our biggest load is boiling water for dishes. If not for the need for heated batteries this type of AIO would have been perfect for us. I don't get the stigma.