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Looking for info and recommendations on a sofa bed with Seatbelts. Preferably with its own base that'll mount to the floor. Any thoughts? Probably going to buy vinyl, and 68 inches wide. Laid out probably 46 to 50.
 

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There are a few good threads on this topic within this forum. I'm working through this right now myself. Here are a few options that I'm leaning toward:
1) http://www.smart-beds.com/smart-bed-evolution.php or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STREAMLINE-3-4-ROCK-N-ROLL-BED-TO-FIT-VW-T4-T5-ETC-WITH-UPHOLSTERY-SEAT-BELTS-/170779183633
I can only find these in Europe
2) Mercedes Bench Seats seem nice and install pretty easy. You can find used ones on Craigs List
This place has a lot of options for different bench seats
3) http://www.discountvantruck.com/Promastersofabeds/Promastersofas.htm

Curious to see what you end up with.
 

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Thnx Darren, ill check those out... Found shop4seats.com and looks like theyve got some real nice ones there as well. Bought my 159 today to turn into a moto hauler. Going to try to get pics of all phases of the project. Seating is first. Ill check those out
 

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Hi there, it looks like http://www.discountvantruck.com/Promastersofabeds/Promastersofas.htm offers plenty of sofa-beds.

There is the catch, however -- read this:

NOTE 1: Behind the wheel well installations will require a 6 inch raised platform to clear the high wheel wells or we can raise the support legs that will require a step platform in the front when in the seat configuration.

NOTE 2: Installation in front of the wheel wells would be straight bolt in procedure.
Which means that due to the height of wheels pits over the floor it's not possible to place the sofa bed at the very end of the van, you need either shift it forward to clear pits, or order 6" higher legs to clear the wells and dangle your legs in the air unless you construct the platform for legs support.

I think that all those issues could be alleviated through more sophisticated design of the bottom of the bed, like creating void space to accommodate the wheel pits.

Anyways, the idea with the raised platform sounds weird to me, and I'm more inclined to this solution: http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Vehicles/PMRV/Beds/Beds.htm

The advantage of the sofa bed is you can use it in folded state as extra seats with safety belts, while can't use bunk beds as such.

Any advice is appreciated.
 

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Depending on YOUR height and the PM inside height, you might consider a 6" basement. I did that on mine, I'm 5'5" and still have plenty of headroom in my 159 Hi Roof!

The wheel wells are less high, so I was then able to make 15" high beds, with 4" cushions. Good sitting height, same as my couch at home.

I added lap seat belts which go thru the upper floor, thru the lower floor, and are bolted thru the steel floor with the DOT approved bolts and washers. Lap belts are what is recommended for sideways riders, and are installed in most similar RV designs. I have one seat belt at the forward-most position on each couch. Probably could add more if needed, to get 3 passengers on each couch. Public transit seems to always have seats sideways and they don't even offer seatbelts!

(sorry no pics yet, but plenty of info at my build website listed in my signature below. Look under "projects")

Enjoy your PM,
Ed
 

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Ddog574: Thanks for the posting the picture, I see it as pit well forward install, but am looking for installattion close to tailgate.
@proeddie: That looks as a solution to me.

Pros: Extra under the floor storage, including the space for the batteries and water tank.

Cons: Installation requires vertical supports to provide basement rigidity and is relatively time-consuming.

I see how conversion companies alleviate the problem: http://chalmersautomotive.com/wp-content/gallery/promaster-2/thumbs/thumbs_23-1.jpg. They just use narrower seats placing them between wheel pits. Once again, I think of Promaster as mainly cargo van due to high pits.

It's also interesting another solution http://www.sportsmobile.com/more-eb-110s/#dinetteL, though it's for Sprinter having smaller pits.
 

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Thanks Stan.

I'm inclined toward this solution, in fact. There is small trick, I think, which allows to win 1" of height -- make rounded cut in the plywood right where pit well top meets horizontal seating, so the seat height can be decreased 1" lower. It sounds funny, but building the basement sounds to me a sort of paint.

Another trick to decrease height between the seat and the floor is to use gym mats, say, 2" thick plus 3/4" plywood on top of it plus self-sticking vinyl floor -- it'll give together with the above trick about 3" of height decrease, which will presumably avoid dangling your legs in the air (depending on your legs length, of course LOL :D)


I watched the pics of the bunk beds unfoldable to single bad on Roadtrek site for ZION RV based of PM, look at http://www.roadtrek.com/models/zion/. It doesn't look like there is any raised floor. How did they managed to do that?

It's the nice solution with the brackets for SMB seats in your reference. So, as I understand, there is the sheet of plywood lying on these brackets and the cushion using it as a support. In this connection - I don't see any middle bracket support, since just 2 side brackets are obviously not enough.

Another thing. When the bed is unfolded to make single (queen?) bed, what serves as a support for plywood in the center?
 
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