Good information! Thanks for finding that out.The recall notices didn't say that (yet), but everyone has to make up their own mind. I haven't been super concerned about the cooling fan problem since I'll get some warning (dash light) and it can't crash the van.
To get more clarity on the shift cable risk, I just called the service desk at my local dealer. The person I spoke with was familiar with the recall and even said the PM wasn't the first FCA vehicle to have this problem. The cable can (very rare) detach itself from the shift pawl on the outside of the transmission. When this happens, you are stuck in the current gear selection. For example, if it happens while you are driving in D, everything will continue to behave normally, until you try to shift into another gear, like P or R. The danger comes with assuming it shifted properly and taking your foot off the brake while the van is still actually in D. You can always apply brakes again, if you catch it before crashing into something. While not as innocuous as the cooling fan, it's still manageable as long as I stay aware. I'm OK with that for now.
So the key is to pay attention to the shift indicator and not take your foot off the brake if it doesn't read Park.The car’s PRNDL (shift indicator) will still show the correct gear, since it’s linked to the transmission computer and not the shifter.
Since the problem was caused by the assembly process, the new cable/lever assembly may be exactly the same as the old one (part 68166623AC); but it will be installed properly.
FCA reported that only around 3% of ProMasters are actually affected.
Seems pretty simple to me! It has become habit for me to do that anyway in any vehicle I drive so that wouldn't be hard for me.
Hmm so that could be more of an issue, safety wise, I suppose. But, if that is the case, why is there not a mandatory safety related 'do not drive' recall? Maybe because:My understanding of the recall/broken cable is the shift indicator will read what you select but the transmission will be in whatever gear or position it was in when the cable broke.
???According to the NHTSA report, out of some 222K "potentially involved" vehicles, they've had 7 "customer assistance inquiry records," 0 field reports, and "545 warranty reports potentially related to this issue," so it's not like they're flying through plate glass windows all over the place or anything...
Perhaps we're using "shift indicator" to mean two different things? I think what that article was saying is the shift indicator on the dashboard will tell you what gear the transmission is actually in (which yes, will be where it was when the cable broke), regardless of the position the handle is in.My understanding of the recall/broken cable is the shift indicator will read what you select but the transmission will be in whatever gear or position it was in when the cable broke.
So if it breaks while you're in Drive, and you move the handle into Park...the shift indicator on the dashboard will still show Drive even though the handle is now in Park.The car’s PRNDL (shift indicator) will still show the correct gear, since it’s linked to the transmission computer and not the shifter.
Yikes! The NHTSA report I was looking at yesterday didn't include the stop sale, and the dealer didn't know about it yesterday either! Is that new?
Just called the salesman. They haven't gotten any notification that it's a stop sale. Wonder what's going on?Yikes! The NHTSA report I was looking at yesterday didn't include the stop sale, and the dealer didn't know about it yesterday either! Is that new?
That must be why the sales guy hasn't called me back this afternoon...
Well, I can wait...hope it doesn't take too long to get it sorted.
open link, scroll down, open associated docsFWIW, my salesman just called back. They claim to have verified that this particular recall -- the shift cable issue -- is NOT a stop sale, at least not as of late today.
Phil, where did you find that FCA-to-dealers notice? Is there any reason some dealers would have received it but others wouldn't?