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{Updated March 29th) Hi Promaster People! 👋

Finally, there is another roof rack available for Promaster people like us! For too long the Promaster platform has been neglected when it comes to accessories…. But not anymore! Our mission at Orion Van Gear is to change that. We set out to create a good-looking, fully adjustable rack that you don’t have to wait 12+ weeks for. (Much more info and pictures below). We all know it’s been a tough year, between the pandemic and work stoppages and I’m hoping this rack is exactly what you have been looking for and that our 20% off launch discount can save you some coin.

Let’s get right into it. Here are a few of the Stealth+ Rack System highlights:
  • All aluminum construction with a high-quality black powder coating
  • All stainless steel hardware
  • Fully adjustable crossbars utilizing heavy-duty 15 series 80/20
    • Can support rooftop decking, roof tents, cargo boxes, etc
    • The configuration possibilities are endless (*works with 99% of existing roof layouts)
    • Allows for easy changes and upgrades in the future (loosen a few bolts and adjust as needed)
  • Includes everything needed to install (roof adaptors, crossbars, nuts, bolts, anti-seize, instructions, etc)
  • Four color options:
    • Silver 80/20 w/ Silver Stainless steel bolts {Steve’s favorite} (ALL SILVER) - Recommended for white vans.
    • Silver 80/20 w/ Stainless steel black oxide bolts
    • Black 80/20 w/ Stainless steel black oxide bolts {Matt’s Pick} (ALL BLACK)
    • Black 80/20 w/ Silver Stainless steel bolts
  • 360-degree roof privacy and stealth (solar panels, hatches, fans etc are hidden by the outer frame)
  • DIY install - it can be installed by 1-2 people in 1 day, no crane or cutting necessary
  • Industry-leading order to delivery times - The initial group buy order will be delivered in 6-7 weeks after it is finished on April 1st. It will be shipped in multiple medium-sized packages (Most other rack companies are 10-12+ weeks right now)
  • Made in the USA by van owners for van owners / Outstanding Customer Service
  • Backed by a Limited Lifetime Warranty
  • Compatible with our side ladder (coming soon)
  • Pictures and video: Stealth+ Roof Rack System for Promaster Vans ! (*Please see the picture labeled “Orion_logo_plate” for the only cosmetic changes between what we have installed on our vans and what you would be getting)
Orion Van Gear - Group Buy - Stealth+ Promaster Roof Rack

A bit about us. The company is based in Oregon and we are a 3-person team; Cody is our kick-ass metal worker and Steve and I are both Promaster van owners with business backgrounds. Orion Van Gear was created because we wanted a great-looking, affordable roof rack that could be adapted to our existing roof layouts. One major problem we had when looking for racks was that there were only a few options and many were 1 size fits all. After more research we were left with 4 decisions:
  1. Buy the cheapest, not good-looking, and non-customizable option. ☹
  2. Pay $3800+ for the only nice option & wait 3+ months before they could make it, and even longer if we wanted any customizations (we both needed 2 customizations for fans)
  3. Find a custom roof rack builder where we could design everything how we wanted for $4k-6k and deal with lots of back and forth and even longer order to delivery times (between 4-12 months) with no guarantee we would like it or that it would work.
  4. Or….create our own solution exactly how we wanted.
You guessed it! We decided to create our own Promaster rack. The journey hasn’t been easy especially amidst the pandemic but 11 months later we both have V1 of the rack installed and both absolutely love it (see pics). Mine van is a black 2500 Promaster (@Dillythevan) with our black accent color package, and Steve’s is a white 2500 Promaster (@thedobervan) with the silver accent color package. Many people have expressed interest in the rack so we are now looking for 10+ others that want the upgraded V2 rack. The differences between V1 (what we have installed and is pictured) and V2 (what you can order here) are all minor modifications to improve the functionality! We have strengthened the rear panel and made it easier to install, modified the crossbars to simplify installation, and replaced the placeholder logo with our actual ORION logo (*Pictures of our vans have the old logo. To see what the V2 logo plate looks like check the renderings below). We may be biased... but we love how the rack looks. We were never drawn to tubular racks and the clean lines match the Promaster design very well.

Ok. Onto the deal.
  • 10+ units sold = 15% off (Locked in March 25th)
  • 15+ units sold = 20% off (Update: March 29th: We have hit 20 orders so the 20% off pricing is locked in for everyone with 2 days left!}
That’s any size, any color combo, easy peasy… this will be the deepest discount we ever offer.

The first 20 orders get to join Orion’s EXCLUSIVE membership program. This membership means you will be first in line to beta test new products as well as pre-order new products at 20% off (like our ladder)! And I know I’m capitalizing EXCLUSIVE like a discount mattress store salesman but that’s just because I’m excited for everyone who is going to get one of these memberships! Not only are you getting a solid discount on one of the best Promaster rack systems on the market, but you’re also going to join a membership program that’s actually worth something and can save you hundreds in not thousands of dollars in the future. We are also planning member-only events/meetups 🤫 which should be a blast! If you miss out on the first 20 we will have an option to join this program in a few weeks.

In addition to joining our membership program, we want your feedback to help us develop newer and updated versions of our racks and other products. We look forward to creating new products that our users (YOU) are requesting and that bring solutions to the van market that don’t currently exist.

Now for some pricing!
All systems and prices below include: black powder coating on all non-80/20 parts, heavy-duty 15 series 80/20 crossbars, roof adaptors, stainless steel hardware, and an installation toolkit (Allen key, anti-seize, thread lockers)

Orion Stealth+ Rack System - 136 High Roof (Retail $2,499)
  • Your choice between Silver (stainless-steel) or Black Oxide (stainless-steel) Bolts & Hardware. (See pictures)
  • Your choice between silver or black 80/20 (*black 80/20 is $50 more)
  • 4 crossbars, 6 roof adaptors
    • 15% off = $2,194 + S/H
    • 20% off = $1,999 + S/H
Orion Stealth+ Rack System - 159 High Roof (Retail $2,699)
  • Your choice between Silver (stainless-steel) or Black Oxide (stainless-steel) Bolts & Hardware. (See pictures)
  • Your choice between silver or black 80/20 (*black 80/20 is $50 more)
  • 5 cross bars, 8 roof adaptors
    • 15% off = $2,294 + S/H
    • 20% off = $2,159 + S/H
Orion Stealth+ Rack System - 159EX High Roof (Retail $2,899)
  • Your choice between Silver (stainless-steel) or Black Oxide (stainless-steel) Bolts & Hardware. (See pictures)
  • Your choice between silver or black 80/20 (*black 80/20 is $50 more)
  • 6 crossbars, 10 roof adaptors
    • 15% off = $2,464 + S/H
    • 20% off = $2,319 + S/H
*Additional options: Add or subtract optional 80/20 crossbars and or components (please inquire with needs for a quote)

To get your name on the group buy list, it’s pretty simple. Reply to this thread saying "Add me to the list" and email us [email protected] with your name, phone number, and order info (include the length of your van, which color hardware you want, which color 80/20 you want, your shipping address/or if you request a pickup, and if you want any additional options) and I’ll get you added to the list. That’s it!...just remember, we need your name, email, phone number, and what you want to order to get you on the list. That’s how we get ahold of you to collect payment. We will send out updates until the group buy ends March 31st at midnight PST.

Timeline. We’re looking at 6-7 weeks for delivery to your door for this stuff. We value transparency and like to underpromise and overdeliver so don’t be surprised if it shows up faster than that - We’ll run the group buy until March 31st at Midnight PST. You’ll be eligible to place your order and make the payment between April 1st - April 3rd (48 hours) via a secure checkout page on our website. Our goal is for most racks to be delivered around the 2nd week of May. However, keep in mind the orders will be fulfilled in the order they come in so the first names on the list will be shipped to first.

Shipping/Pickup. All orders will be shipped FedEx/UPS to the lower 48 and the cost will vary depending on your location. Most shipping in the lower 48 is between $250-$350. If you live in Canada or elsewhere you can still order but you’re responsible for extra shipping and doing your own tax or import duty calculations. Alternatively, you can pick up your order at our location in McMinnville, Oregon and save on shipping. Just make sure to tell us that in your email and on your order.

As always, orders ship in the order of payment received. Thanks in advance for your participation and for sharing the buy. I really appreciate all of you and we are excited to see these racks on the road! Let us know if you have any questions and we have included an FAQ section below which I will keep updated.

Best,

Matt, Steve, and Cody
Orion Van Gear
www.OrionVanGear.com
www.instagram.com/orionvangear

FAQ
  • How do I get my name on the group buy list?
    • Reply to this email or send a new email to [email protected] with your name, phone number, and order (include the length of your van, which color package you want, shipping destination city + zip code, and if you want any additional options), or if you want a local Oregon pickup.
  • How much is shipping?
    • Approx $275-$350 to the lower 48.
    • We got an estimate to Canada for a customer and it was approx $300 to Quebec City.
    • Elsewhere, you might pay a lil more but it’s worth it!
  • Do you offer a version of the rack for low roof Promaster vans?
    • Not at this time. The locations of the roof pins are different. If we get enough interest we may look into this. Please let us know if you want this.
  • Have pictures and videos?
  • What are the Rack Dimensions?
  • Can I add extra crossbars or extra 80/20 pieces?
    • Yes, you can, please let us know how many extra crossbars or what additional pieces you are looking for and we will get back to you with a quote. We most likely can ship it with the rest of your order!
  • How much does the rack weigh?
    • Our racks are built with all-aluminum construction so they are light and strong. We are still working to get exact weights but approximates for each model are: 136= 90 lbs, 159= 100lbs, 159EX= 110lbs.
 

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Are the front to back 80/20 on the 159 and 159 EXT full length or multiple sticks? What's the total length?
 

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Have you tested any of these with roof decking?
There are lots of ways to mount decking to 80/20 but we are working on our own improved solution to this. You can attach either traditional wood planks or metal panels to these racks with simple 80/20 adaptors. We are trying to come up with a panel design that is adjustable to most configurations. This is important to us because one of our founders (@tahoematt ) will be installing decking in the rear of his rack between solar panels and his rear sail hatch.
 

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Just a reminder so no one misses out! The group buy which is now at 20% off ends in 3 days > on March 31st at 12 midnight PST.

To get your name on the group buy list, send an email to [email protected] with your name, phone number, and order info (include the length of your van, which color hardware you want, which color 80/20 you want, shipping address/request a pickup, and if you want any additional options). That’s it!...

Have a great day!
 

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Hi! How tall are the stealthy side panels above the roof? And how tall are the 8020 beams inside the panels above the roof? Do you have any pics with the MaxxAir Deluxe fan fully raised?

Thanks!
 

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Hi! How tall are the stealthy side panels above the roof? And how tall are the 8020 beams inside the panels above the roof? Do you have any pics with the MaxxAir Deluxe fan fully raised?

Thanks!
Hello! Our side panels are approximately 5" tall. The very top of the 80/20 crossbars sit at a height of 3". I was able to snap a photo for you, but it's a late here so I do apologize for it being a bit dark. I can shoot you another photo tomorrow if you'd like. Depending on the angle and how far away you are from the van will change your prospective on how much you can see with it fully extended up. Hope this helps!

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We are now up to 19 orders! Wow! Thank you!

There are still 2 days left to join the group buy and save 20% off this versatile rack system. The next order will take the last spot in our exclusive membership program. Who will it be? :unsure:
 

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Just added the 20th person to the list. This means the membership perk is now full but if somebody were to drop out for any reason it would go directly to the next person in line (etc. order 21)
 

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{Updated March 29th) Hi Promaster People! 👋

Finally, there is another roof rack available for Promaster people like us! For too long the Promaster platform has been neglected when it comes to accessories…. But not anymore! Our mission at Orion Van Gear is to change that. We set out to create a good-looking, fully adjustable rack that you don’t have to wait 12+ weeks for. (Much more info and pictures below). We all know it’s been a tough year, between the pandemic and work stoppages and I’m hoping this rack is exactly what you have been looking for and that our 20% off launch discount can save you some coin.

Let’s get right into it. Here are a few of the Stealth+ Rack System highlights:
  • All aluminum construction with a high-quality black powder coating
  • All stainless steel hardware
  • Fully adjustable crossbars utilizing heavy-duty 15 series 80/20
    • Can support rooftop decking, roof tents, cargo boxes, etc
    • The configuration possibilities are endless (*works with 99% of existing roof layouts)
    • Allows for easy changes and upgrades in the future (loosen a few bolts and adjust as needed)
  • Includes everything needed to install (roof adaptors, crossbars, nuts, bolts, anti-seize, instructions, etc)
  • Four color options:
    • Silver 80/20 w/ Silver Stainless steel bolts {Steve’s favorite} (ALL SILVER) - Recommended for white vans.
    • Silver 80/20 w/ Stainless steel black oxide bolts
    • Black 80/20 w/ Stainless steel black oxide bolts {Matt’s Pick} (ALL BLACK)
    • Black 80/20 w/ Silver Stainless steel bolts
  • 360-degree roof privacy and stealth (solar panels, hatches, fans etc are hidden by the outer frame)
  • DIY install - it can be installed by 1-2 people in 1 day, no crane or cutting necessary
  • Industry-leading order to delivery times - The initial group buy order will be delivered in 6-7 weeks after it is finished on April 1st. It will be shipped in multiple medium-sized packages (Most other rack companies are 10-12+ weeks right now)
  • Made in the USA by van owners for van owners / Outstanding Customer Service
  • Backed by a Limited Lifetime Warranty
  • Compatible with our side ladder (coming soon)
  • Pictures and video: Stealth+ Roof Rack System for Promaster Vans ! (*Please see the picture labeled “Orion_logo_plate” for the only cosmetic changes between what we have installed on our vans and what you would be getting)
Orion Van Gear - Group Buy - Stealth+ Promaster Roof Rack

A bit about us. The company is based in Oregon and we are a 3-person team; Cody is our kick-ass metal worker and Steve and I are both Promaster van owners with business backgrounds. Orion Van Gear was created because we wanted a great-looking, affordable roof rack that could be adapted to our existing roof layouts. One major problem we had when looking for racks was that there were only a few options and many were 1 size fits all. After more research we were left with 4 decisions:
  1. Buy the cheapest, not good-looking, and non-customizable option. ☹
  2. Pay $3800+ for the only nice option & wait 3+ months before they could make it, and even longer if we wanted any customizations (we both needed 2 customizations for fans)
  3. Find a custom roof rack builder where we could design everything how we wanted for $4k-6k and deal with lots of back and forth and even longer order to delivery times (between 4-12 months) with no guarantee we would like it or that it would work.
  4. Or….create our own solution exactly how we wanted.
You guessed it! We decided to create our own Promaster rack. The journey hasn’t been easy especially amidst the pandemic but 11 months later we both have V1 of the rack installed and both absolutely love it (see pics). Mine van is a black 2500 Promaster (@Dillythevan) with our black accent color package, and Steve’s is a white 2500 Promaster (@thedobervan) with the silver accent color package. Many people have expressed interest in the rack so we are now looking for 10+ others that want the upgraded V2 rack. The differences between V1 (what we have installed and is pictured) and V2 (what you can order here) are all minor modifications to improve the functionality! We have strengthened the rear panel and made it easier to install, modified the crossbars to simplify installation, and replaced the placeholder logo with our actual ORION logo (*Pictures of our vans have the old logo. To see what the V2 logo plate looks like check the renderings below). We may be biased... but we love how the rack looks. We were never drawn to tubular racks and the clean lines match the Promaster design very well.

Ok. Onto the deal.
  • 10+ units sold = 15% off (Locked in March 25th)
  • 15+ units sold = 20% off (Update: March 29th: We have hit 20 orders so the 20% off pricing is locked in for everyone with 2 days left!}
That’s any size, any color combo, easy peasy… this will be the deepest discount we ever offer.

The first 20 orders get to join Orion’s EXCLUSIVE membership program. This membership means you will be first in line to beta test new products as well as pre-order new products at 20% off (like our ladder)! And I know I’m capitalizing EXCLUSIVE like a discount mattress store salesman but that’s just because I’m excited for everyone who is going to get one of these memberships! Not only are you getting a solid discount on one of the best Promaster rack systems on the market, but you’re also going to join a membership program that’s actually worth something and can save you hundreds in not thousands of dollars in the future. We are also planning member-only events/meetups 🤫 which should be a blast! If you miss out on the first 20 we will have an option to join this program in a few weeks.

In addition to joining our membership program, we want your feedback to help us develop newer and updated versions of our racks and other products. We look forward to creating new products that our users (YOU) are requesting and that bring solutions to the van market that don’t currently exist.

Now for some pricing!
All systems and prices below include: black powder coating on all non-80/20 parts, heavy-duty 15 series 80/20 crossbars, roof adaptors, stainless steel hardware, and an installation toolkit (Allen key, anti-seize, thread lockers)

Orion Stealth+ Rack System - 136 High Roof (Retail $2,499)
  • Your choice between Silver (stainless-steel) or Black Oxide (stainless-steel) Bolts & Hardware. (See pictures)
  • Your choice between silver or black 80/20 (*black 80/20 is $50 more)
  • 4 crossbars, 6 roof adaptors
    • 15% off = $2,194 + S/H
    • 20% off = $1,999 + S/H
Orion Stealth+ Rack System - 159 High Roof (Retail $2,699)
  • Your choice between Silver (stainless-steel) or Black Oxide (stainless-steel) Bolts & Hardware. (See pictures)
  • Your choice between silver or black 80/20 (*black 80/20 is $50 more)
  • 5 cross bars, 8 roof adaptors
    • 15% off = $2,294 + S/H
    • 20% off = $2,159 + S/H
Orion Stealth+ Rack System - 159EX High Roof (Retail $2,899)
  • Your choice between Silver (stainless-steel) or Black Oxide (stainless-steel) Bolts & Hardware. (See pictures)
  • Your choice between silver or black 80/20 (*black 80/20 is $50 more)
  • 6 crossbars, 10 roof adaptors
    • 15% off = $2,464 + S/H
    • 20% off = $2,319 + S/H
*Additional options: Add or subtract optional 80/20 crossbars and or components (please inquire with needs for a quote)

To get your name on the group buy list, it’s pretty simple. Reply to this thread saying "Add me to the list" and email us [email protected] with your name, phone number, and order info (include the length of your van, which color hardware you want, which color 80/20 you want, your shipping address/or if you request a pickup, and if you want any additional options) and I’ll get you added to the list. That’s it!...just remember, we need your name, email, phone number, and what you want to order to get you on the list. That’s how we get ahold of you to collect payment. We will send out updates until the group buy ends March 31st at midnight PST.

Timeline. We’re looking at 6-7 weeks for delivery to your door for this stuff. We value transparency and like to underpromise and overdeliver so don’t be surprised if it shows up faster than that - We’ll run the group buy until March 31st at Midnight PST. You’ll be eligible to place your order and make the payment between April 1st - April 3rd (48 hours) via a secure checkout page on our website. Our goal is for most racks to be delivered around the 2nd week of May. However, keep in mind the orders will be fulfilled in the order they come in so the first names on the list will be shipped to first.

Shipping/Pickup. All orders will be shipped FedEx/UPS to the lower 48 and the cost will vary depending on your location. Most shipping in the lower 48 is between $250-$350. If you live in Canada or elsewhere you can still order but you’re responsible for extra shipping and doing your own tax or import duty calculations. Alternatively, you can pick up your order at our location in McMinnville, Oregon and save on shipping. Just make sure to tell us that in your email and on your order.

As always, orders ship in the order of payment received. Thanks in advance for your participation and for sharing the buy. I really appreciate all of you and we are excited to see these racks on the road! Let us know if you have any questions and we have included an FAQ section below which I will keep updated.

Best,

Matt, Steve, and Cody
Orion Van Gear
www.OrionVanGear.com
www.instagram.com/orionvangear

FAQ
  • How do I get my name on the group buy list?
    • Reply to this email or send a new email to [email protected] with your name, phone number, and order (include the length of your van, which color package you want, shipping destination city + zip code, and if you want any additional options), or if you want a local Oregon pickup.
  • How much is shipping?
    • Approx $275-$350 to the lower 48.
    • We got an estimate to Canada for a customer and it was approx $300 to Quebec City.
    • Elsewhere, you might pay a lil more but it’s worth it!
  • Do you offer a version of the rack for low roof Promaster vans?
    • Not at this time. The locations of the roof pins are different. If we get enough interest we may look into this. Please let us know if you want this.
  • Have pictures and videos?
  • What are the Rack Dimensions?
  • Can I add extra crossbars or extra 80/20 pieces?
    • Yes, you can, please let us know how many extra crossbars or what additional pieces you are looking for and we will get back to you with a quote. We most likely can ship it with the rest of your order!
  • How much does the rack weigh?
    • Our racks are built with all-aluminum construction so they are light and strong. We are still working to get exact weights but approximates for each model are: 136= 90 lbs, 159= 100lbs, 159EX= 110lbs.
Looks like an elegant system.

I have a few questions:
  • What size is the 80/20, is it 1.5" x 1.5"?
  • Is the front piece flat or are there radiused "lips" toward the rear at the top and bottom? It seems to me that this piece would be subject to harmonic flutter at certain speeds and wind direction. At certain wind loads does this piece deflect to touch the roof?
  • What type of roof mounts to you use?

I'm curious before I pull the trigger. Thanks in advance.
 

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Looks like an elegant system.

I have a few questions:
  • What size is the 80/20, is it 1.5" x 1.5"?
  • Is the front piece flat or are there radiused "lips" toward the rear at the top and bottom? It seems to me that this piece would be subject to harmonic flutter at certain speeds and wind direction. At certain wind loads does this piece deflect to touch the roof?
  • What type of roof mounts to you use?

I'm curious before I pull the trigger. Thanks in advance.
Yes, the front, side, and all crossbars are 15 series 80/20 and are 1.5" by 1.5". We do have an additional brace at the very top back that is 10 series 80/20 (1"by1"). Both the front and back deflectors are braced with brackets that tie into the 80/20 framing to stiffen the panels. In addition to that, both front and back deflectors feature a flange at the top that aids in stiffening the panel itself. We have our on version of mounts that tie into each mounting pin(head) on the roof. So, no drilling required! If you have any additional questions or would like to join this group buy please reach to us directly at [email protected].
 

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Bump! only 11 hours left to get your name on the list before we end this exclusive group buy! Just need your email on the list by midnight.
 

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Thanks to everyone that participated!!! The racks are in production and we will keep all group buy participants updated via email on timelines and shipping eta's.

If you find this thread late ... don't worry we will have stock available for purchase after all the group buy orders are fulfilled. You can contact us or place an order here: www.orionvangear.com

Join our email list vis the site to stay tuned for future Promaster-specific product releases. :)
 

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Awesome to start seeing the Stealth+ group buy racks on the road! Here is a quick update.... We are growing super fast! Our side ladder should be finished this month and will be available in July. We are now Fiamma dealers and can bundle our racks with their F45s awnings. We will be attending 3 of the adventure van expo events this summer if you want to stop by and say hi. The first one is in a few weeks at Hood River on June 19th/20th. We have a black and blue awning and will be in blue shirts.

See you on the road!
 
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