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An interesting link! No Promasters of course but Fiat, Citroen & Peugeot are all in the top five with Fiat in first place.
http://vans.honestjohn.co.uk/van-top-10s/top-10-most-economical-large-vans/?image=0
Me too. I would trade in my Sprinter tomorrow for a ProMaster with the 2.3 liter diesel and manual transmission, if one was available. But unfortunately, besides us two, maybe only 10 other people in the US would buy one, so no point for the manufacturers to spend money for certifications. Just like you said, I don't need to go from 0 to 60 in 5 seconds. 25 is good enough. It is a work van, not a race car. Too bad that the majority of my fellow Americans want big gas guzzlers, and that is what the manufacturers are making. I predict that this will not change until the price of gas here in the US will get up to the levels that Europeans pay.I'd take it in a heartbeat. Don't need to drive fast and not going to weight it down.
And interesting link! No Promasters of course but Fiat, Citroen & Peugeot are all in the top five with Fiat in first place.
http://vans.honestjohn.co.uk/van-top-10s/top-10-most-economical-large-vans/?image=0
I have a iphone app called "Units Plus" which I use to convert such things... you might get it. I think we all know our PM will not get 44mpg and that the English gal is different BUT......This one kind of sticks in my craw. My whole life, people go on and on about European cars and the crazy mileage they get. The numbers are wrong.
The biggest factor is that they are using the Imperial gallon vs the US gallon. I'm too lazy to look it up, ....cut
The next is the test cycle. cut....
The point? In the link at the beginning of this post, the PM variants are claiming mid 40s mpg. Ain't gonna happen.
In the real life, my consumption with my Hymer Exsis 2006 is around 8,5 l/100 km, or between 28 & 28 mi/US gal, measured on more than 10 000 km on european roads. It's a very small class A made on a Ducato diesel 2,3 l.2.3 liter turbo diesel engine in that ducato. Of course it gets good fuel mileage.
And let's not forget Renault's entry into the EU van market
http://vans.honestjohn.co.uk/van-tax/top-5-euro6-compliant-vans/?image=4
This one kind of sticks in my craw. My whole life, people go on and on about European cars and the crazy mileage they get. The numbers are wrong.
The biggest factor is that they are using the Imperial gallon vs the US gallon. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I believe our gallon is .81 smaller. So, a US diesel PM that gets 27mpg in Kansas automatically gets 33.3mpg in London.
The next is the test cycle. First off, the US government just spot checks, the EPA ratings are actually just the manufacturers claims. But I have found they are mostly accurate. If the window sticker says 20 city 30 highway, you can expect it to be fairly close (with a few notable exceptions resulting in class action suits against Honda, Ford, and Kia).
In Europe, the testing procedure is very different, resulting in inflated numbers. Just now, I looked up the 2015 Mustang ecoboost fuel economy in Britain. There is ZERO difference between our version and the Brit version except right hand drive. Mileage? 26 city and 37 highway. For comparison, ours rates 22/31.
The point? In the link at the beginning of this post, the PM variants are claiming mid 40s mpg. Ain't gonna happen.
Interesting that it also has the facelift too. Apparently we are also to stupid to drive the faster look! BTW that 2.3 should get 30 easily as it does in Europe and my 3.0 is getting 27 already when lightly loaded if I stay out of congested areas.