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I am fabricating a lift kit spacer for the front suspension for Promaster. ~ lift would be 2-2.25 inches. (to level out the van and give more ground clearance) This would be easily installed above the coil in the front struts. Cost would be $500 for a set. Machined out of solid block. I wanted to do this instead of taking out a leaf spring to level the van out. More ground clearance is better than lowering, especially when you have tanks and such under the van.

I only found one company that does this out of Germany and those are almost $850 by the time you get it here in USA and I know I can fabricate one for less. Anyone interested? I am thinking of making a few extra sets. Would be done by end of May and fabricated and designed with help from my friend who builds super high end trophy trucks so you can be assured its done right.

Let me know if you are interested. When I have them installed I will post pictures and a how to at the same time.
 

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Of course. Think that obvious. :)

Everyone is lowering the rear to level vans out but at the sacrifice of removing springs or flipping axle which reduces the travel and then you have to rig a bump stop or air bag to compensate. I have modified a lot of suspensions, lifted, lowered, bagged...to the extreme, there are always compromises in changing factory suspension. Lifting the front with a spacer reduces travel down with the suspension, but it's the most common way to level out a truck and usually for a mild lift works our great. It does often require alignment to be done by a "real" alignment shop that specializes in lifts, but its the cleanest way to level a truck...unfortunately no one makes a simple kit for the front because the market is just to small otherwise there would be one for likely $300 dollars. Hundreds of kits for all the trucks are available, it's a very common way to level out and gain a little more wheel well space, however won't change tire rubbing issues most of the time on + size tires.

The last Promaster I did was lifted using the kit from Europe with good results, but I figured I could easily do the same thing with a custom fabricated spacer here in US as I have done for other specialty vehicles that don't have coil kits.

Post is just to see if anyone is interested...if so send me a PM and I will keep you informed.
 

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Picture with front coil lift on the last van I did. ~2.25 inches. I don't own this anymore, so I don't have more pictures. This is the lift from Germany. A spacer kit on top of spring. You can see it levels out van some, rear is still slightly higher, but not by nearly as much as stock.

 

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I like the wheels and tires. are those snow tires? And the brush guard on the nose looks good too. I think the lift would be great. I do want the lift but i cant commit right now. can you fabricate some solar panel holders that will attach to the rack nubbins? heh "nubbins"
 

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That is exactly what I have been wanting to make, or an insert that the bottom of the strut fits into than slides back into the spindle. I think 2.75-3in would be best. I don't want to lower my van it's an adventure van after all. Then all it will need is some form of trailing arm in the rear for lots of clearance. I've already been stuck and had to dig out because of the stupid low rear beam. Dang it I can't fix my picture!!!
 

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While I can understand people wanting to level their van and even make it look higher, other than taller profile tires the rear axel is still going to have the same clearance no matter what.

Can anyone explain to us why they think this will give them more clearance?
 

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While I can understand people wanting to level their van and even make it look higher, other than taller profile tires the rear axel is still going to have the same clearance no matter what.

Can anyone explain to us why they think this will give them more clearance?
Approach angles and dips on dirt roads! ?
 
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While I can understand people wanting to level their van and even make it look higher, other than taller profile tires the rear axel is still going to have the same clearance no matter what.

Can anyone explain to us why they think this will give them more clearance?
If you are going to make major changes, who's to say you can't revise rear axle ground clearance also. That part seems easy to me.

I'm personally more interested in a lower van so I can garage it, but don't see why greater rear ground clearance can't be added.
 

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I agree. I think if you want more clearance you need to get taller tires or a different rear axel (unless you are planning on driving sideways).
 

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I would be interested in lifting the front of mine up an inch or two, if the cost wasn't so much pr the installation wasn't so complicated that I couldn't do it in my driveway.
How hard you think the installation would be? And how much do you think the product will cost?
I have already removed the short leaf spring in the rear, but it still doesn't sit level. If the front end was jacked up about an inch and a half I think I would like that perfect
 

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The spacer would be 400-$500 shipped likely maybe less. I will not know until I pull the struts and get everything measured. This won't happen until later this month if I move forward. I would post a how to. This would be similar end result to leveling a van but with the front. I am not a big fan of removing leaf springs to do this, I think re-arching is the proper solution if leveling through the rear. Putting in a spacer can be easily done in a driveway with normal tools and a rented spring compressor, however getting to the top of the strut in these vans might be not so easy as I took a look at it. I go back and forth if I should get the rear springs re-arched or the spacers. The advantage of spacers is that everything can go back to "stock" and you gain a little ground clearance in the front and very common to do on other vehicles. I am just getting general interest of anyone whom might be interested. I know the Spaccer from Europe is about $800 with shipping, so this would be a less expensive option and re-arching springs is $500-800 depending on the shop. ($700 here in San Diego by a reputable specialty spring shop) So this still would be the least expensive if labor is done by the owner.
 

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The main reason to level the van for me...if you sleep sideways on a bed...you have to use blocks to level the van otherwise you are sleeping at an angle. Otherwise I would not change anything.
 

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The main reason to level the van for me...if you sleep sideways on a bed...you have to use blocks to level the van otherwise you are sleeping at an angle.

Or you could install the bed level with the ground, and not level with the van, so that it is level when the truck is parked on flat ground.
 

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I used blocks on my last PM, it works but you really have to use a lot of them to get it level and it's a pain in the butt sometimes when you just want to pull over and sleep. I could have "tilted" the bed so it's level or pull a rear spring, but I don't believe in doing anything a little shady on a nice build and really want to maintain the stock loading capacity. Nothing wrong with guys doing this. :) Just not the way I like to do things. A little lift will really help it out and if I put a slightly larger tire in the future it will look a little better. With a Baja Bumper Style guard in front and some rock guards/step on the side this will fit the look I am going for rather than more of an lowered RV cruiser. When I finish this build the van is going to look like no other.

I talked to my fabricator about the lift and he wants to approach it differently than a spring spacer...all I have to do is pull the strut so he can take measurements. I am excited to see if his idea will work as if its what I think it will turn out to be the install may not require pulling the strut out and you can raise or return van to stock height with minimal work. Have to see. I can pull the strut till later in the month when I can have the van sit for a while.
 

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The main reason to level the van for me...if you sleep sideways on a bed...you have to use blocks to level the van otherwise you are sleeping at an angle. Otherwise I would not change anything.
How about a couple of these?



Video here: https://youtu.be/b4JQV15VzBc

Only good while parked! 4" of lift. Hold 30,000 pounds. About $80 a pair.
 

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Those are nice, haven't seen them and easier to use than blocks for sure. Think i will change those out for the blocks I have. Thanks for the info. I still like the idea of lifting the van with some BFG's...that would be super cool. Can't tell me lifted a little in front isn't great looking...my older build below with front lift kit.
 
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