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Well true to my dealers word he called me up and said they had just gotten in a batch of PMs and he had a brand new 2018 silver 118WB low roof ProMaster on the lot that I could take home for a try out. Pretty much what I was looking for. First off what really surprised me was that he put some temporary tags on it and said that I could keep it for five days! Never seen that before. I only wanted it to take home and see if it fit under my carport and try it out driving on the highway, in town and give it a try at parking in a crowded Walmart parking lot. All of which turned out just fine. So we took it back that afternoon after having it for about 5 hours. I took measurements and took photos. Found out that I had a coupla inches less in inside length than the online template I had, but my build would still be possible.
The van drove and handled great. My wife liked it. Very important. It was quieter than I expected but still had a bit of a metal drum sound in the rear but it had no sound deadening material in it. It was no where near as rough of ride that I had expected. The sticker said Light Duty Suspension. With the wide stance I went over some neighborhood speed bumps that it straddled and never hit them. Very nice! It was very peppy although seemed to need a new lower gear a lot and I guess that is due to the ratios of the 6 speed. The steering was effortless and had a surprising short turning radius. Parking will take a bit of practice as being aware of exactly where the front bumpers are is a challenge as you cannot see them at all but the overall forward view is fantastic. My eye level was a bit over any roof of a full sized pickup in front of me. Wow! Seats and driving position were fine. I was able to lower the seat to my liking and the steering wheel slant is just as my Honda CRV so was used to that already. the back up camera and rear parking sensor thing was very useful. I would install a full time rear view camera.
What I didn't care for was that it had black vinyl seats that I know would be very hot at times. It also had the very wide mirrors that were very effective but looked a bit too wide. like a kid with big ears that stuck out. And no slide door or rear door windows. The wide mirrors really made the rear view good enough and actually pretty dang good especially eliminating the blind spots. But, and a big but, no slider door window made it impossible to see if a vehicle or a pedestrian was approaching the van from the passenger side when backing out of a parking spot. Almost totally blind to that view. No likee!
I didn't buy the vehicle because of the wide mirrors and the lack of slider door window. Dealer said he still may be able to give me the 2017 discount on the vehicle, about $4,000 or so since it was still 2017 even though the van is a 2018. Said he'd give me a call Monday after talking with the big guy I guess or seeing if they had a possible buyer at full price. So we'll see. It was silver colored as I wanted with the chrome grill and my wife and I did like it. If the deal is sweet enuff, like driveout including all fees, tax, title and license was $30,000, I guess I could live with the mirrors and I could put a window in the slider and possibly get some seat covers if they really do get as hot as I suspect they will. The sticker including options and delivery was right at $34,000 for 2018.
The van drove and handled great. My wife liked it. Very important. It was quieter than I expected but still had a bit of a metal drum sound in the rear but it had no sound deadening material in it. It was no where near as rough of ride that I had expected. The sticker said Light Duty Suspension. With the wide stance I went over some neighborhood speed bumps that it straddled and never hit them. Very nice! It was very peppy although seemed to need a new lower gear a lot and I guess that is due to the ratios of the 6 speed. The steering was effortless and had a surprising short turning radius. Parking will take a bit of practice as being aware of exactly where the front bumpers are is a challenge as you cannot see them at all but the overall forward view is fantastic. My eye level was a bit over any roof of a full sized pickup in front of me. Wow! Seats and driving position were fine. I was able to lower the seat to my liking and the steering wheel slant is just as my Honda CRV so was used to that already. the back up camera and rear parking sensor thing was very useful. I would install a full time rear view camera.
What I didn't care for was that it had black vinyl seats that I know would be very hot at times. It also had the very wide mirrors that were very effective but looked a bit too wide. like a kid with big ears that stuck out. And no slide door or rear door windows. The wide mirrors really made the rear view good enough and actually pretty dang good especially eliminating the blind spots. But, and a big but, no slider door window made it impossible to see if a vehicle or a pedestrian was approaching the van from the passenger side when backing out of a parking spot. Almost totally blind to that view. No likee!
I didn't buy the vehicle because of the wide mirrors and the lack of slider door window. Dealer said he still may be able to give me the 2017 discount on the vehicle, about $4,000 or so since it was still 2017 even though the van is a 2018. Said he'd give me a call Monday after talking with the big guy I guess or seeing if they had a possible buyer at full price. So we'll see. It was silver colored as I wanted with the chrome grill and my wife and I did like it. If the deal is sweet enuff, like driveout including all fees, tax, title and license was $30,000, I guess I could live with the mirrors and I could put a window in the slider and possibly get some seat covers if they really do get as hot as I suspect they will. The sticker including options and delivery was right at $34,000 for 2018.