Please photo the install and send it up along with the product ID and where you bought them and how it worked out. With the factory swivels at $495 each I plan to do this too. Thanks!Going to install swivels, instruction say disconnect neg at battery to prevent air bag surprise, Question, will the radio work or will I have to enter the code after I'm reconnect the battery?
Mojogoat,Please photo the install and send it up along with the product ID and where you bought them and how it worked out. With the factory swivels at $495 each I plan to do this too. Thanks!
Factory swivels are not yet available for cargo vans. They are listed on the build site and in dealer ordering books, but cannot be selected when ordering. Donlen Fleet site says the factory will start production on swivels on 12/15/14. Dealers will not commit to that date and some say not until after the first of the year. Once ordered it may take 3 months or more before they actually show up on cargo vans.Anyone out there have the factory swivels to know they don't also lift the seat? I see from the "built it" you can't have both lumbar and swivels, and BOTH seats must swivel ($990!). I need both swivel and lumbar. Any possibility of lowering the seat with the swivels? I'm 5'8" but the SO is 5'2", she's not going to like being up that high!
I would not recommend them because Eurocampers is cheaper.
I checked out a Travato and really liked the seat which included swivel. A major difference I see between these that appeared to be factory and adding aftermarket swivel bases is that the seatbelt shoulder harness is mounted to seat rather than body B pillar. This detail makes rotating seat much easier (granted a luxury since aftermarket swivel can work also). On the other hand when shoulder seatbelt is attached to seat, the seat and swivel "may" have to be stronger. Not sure since seatbelt doesn't help in rear-end collision and thus seat may have to take full load anyway.....cut....
However, Winnebago has 2 RVS, Trend and Travato, based on the Promaster which use the factory swivels. I saw a Travato a couple of weeks ago and checked out the swivels. They match the drawings shown in the Promaster owners manual. AND, they include a functioning Lumbar Support knob as shown in the diagrams.
Based on what I saw, and comparing the Travato Seats to the diagrams in the Promaster Owners Manual, I also believe they are the same and sourced by RAM. And they definitely had the Lumbar Adjustment knob which was functional. I also recall a detailed Video of the Travato where the narrators claimed that the seats were RAM factory seats. Just have to wait until they actually show up in a cargo van to be sure.From Winnebago Travato Specs:
"Cab seats armrests, adjustable lumbar support, adjustable headrest and slide/swivel/recline"
I don't recall the lumbar support, but it appears it's included. We just need to confirm these are the same RAM factory seats. I'm guessing they are but not certain. Since swivel and recline handles are built into seat trim it's hard to imagine they didn't come from one source. Whether that was RAM or not is a good question.