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At 7180 miles I decided to get the break in contaminants out of my engine and filter. I purchased 9.5 qts. (12 really) of Kendall GT1 Full Synth Euro oil that meets the Chrysler 11106 standard as stated on their website and a Mann W9009 filter (2 really), both off the internet for a total of about $80 with shipping for the oil change ($105 really but I have an extra filter and 2.5 quarts of oil left)
The filter is about the easiest to get at on any vehicle I have ever owned. It hangs down in front of the engine and with a large filter wrench came right off. It was an Iveco 2995655. The Mann replacement was identical, weighed 1 lb. 3 oz!
The Oil drain plug was another matter. It is a large recessed hex nut that I believe is 12mm. I made one from an old 1/2 inch hex wrench from some farm equipment I had handy. In our little town no one had a 12 mm hex wrench and 7/16 was a bit loose and I didn't dare to strip it. A T60 Torx fits real well but is really not the right tool. I removed the filler cap and drained out 8+ quarts of black, black oil, replaced the plug with my "new-old" wrench and added 9 quarts of the Kendall. I'll top up the last bit on a drive in the next few days. Easy Peasy. 15 min. to change the oil, 1 hour looking for the correct wrench, 15 minutes to grind and file down the old wrench for a perfect fit. Its in my toolkit under the passenger seat now.
I then turned on the key, cycled the gas pedal 3 times and checked the miles left to the next Oil change on the EVIC and had 18,345. Done.
My plan is to now change it at 20 thousand miles about 13,000 miles from now.
 

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Rd, thanks for the update! I too have always changed my own oil but since I worked out a deal with FCA, part of the resolve was 3 years up to 3 oil changes a year with synthetic oil. And believe me, I will use three oil changes a year even at 18000 miles per! When its over I know what to look forward too! Cheers
 

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For the Diesel!
The oil is specified to be 5W-30 not 15 anything so I bought what Chrysler specified.

The spec page for the oil is:
http://www.phillips66lubricants.com/brands-products/Single.aspx?pid=235
You can read where is exceeds the Chrysler MS-11106 standard. The oil you pointed to does NOT meet the spec. for the diesel. All the Euro oils that do meet the spec. are very expensive and I believe I found a good price, but if you do better on a specified oil post the source please. I like Kendall anyway.

The filter: http://www.diesel-filters.com/produ...l-filter-promaster-diesel-oem-68095335aa.html

Best with your oil changes.
 

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Cools thanks for the links, those prices look reasonable. I just bought the oil and filter.

Looks like I was looking at the non-synthetic recommendation for oil weight. The Promaster Diesel Manual says 5W-40 for synthetic but 5W-30 makes sense for the climate I live in.

I found this in the 2014-RAM_15_25_35_45_55_Diesel-SU-6th.pdf that I downloaded from the Ram website. Page 288 says

Failure to use SAE 5W-40 synthetic engine oil in ambient temperatures below 0°F (-18°C) could result in severe engine damage.

I assume that refers to the 5W in cool weather.
 

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Thanks for those links, I just bought the oil and filter.

I just checked again and the 15W-40 was referring to non-synthetic oil.

The manual (2014-RAM_15_25_35_45_55_Diesel-SU-6th.pdf, download from Ram web site) says 5W-40 but for climate I live in, 5W-30 is perfect.

On page 288 it says
Failure to use SAE 5W-40 synthetic engine oil in ambient temperatures below 0°F (-18°C) could result in severe engine damage.
 

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You downloaded the wrong Diesel supplement you want the Promaster Commercial supplement. The one you downloaded is for pick-ups.
Thanks for those links, I just bought the oil and filter.

I just checked again and the 15W-40 was referring to non-synthetic oil.

The manual (2014-RAM_15_25_35_45_55_Diesel-SU-6th.pdf, download from Ram web site) says 5W-40 but for climate I live in, 5W-30 is perfect.

On page 288 it says
Failure to use SAE 5W-40 synthetic engine oil in ambient temperatures below 0°F (-18°C) could result in severe engine damage.
 

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Darren Kraker, NO! The manual says:

"Engine Oil
Only use ACEA C3 5W-30 Synthetic Low Ash engine oil meeting Chrysler material standard MS-11106 or Pennzoil Ultra Euro L full synthetic 5W-30 motor oil."

That is in the 2015 Promaster Diesel manual 5W-30, MS-11106! The last thing any of us need is a warrantee denial because we put the wrong oil in our diesel! Better take that back and buy the correct stuff! I did the research.
 
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"Engine Oil
Only use ACEA C3 5W-30 Synthetic Low Ash engine oil meeting Chrysler material standard MS-11106 or Pennzoil Ultra Euro L full synthetic 5W-30 motor oil."
Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 has the following builder approval:
Chrysler MS-11106

Just checked today at manual
 

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Recently did tried with a engine oil and it lasted for 6K. Now using magnetic 10-40w, local dealer has offered a guarantee of 8K without any issue.
 

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I just got a coupon from my dealer for an oil change for my diesel. $154.95 plus a possible $10 charge for disposal! Now see the first post in this thread and you will see I can do it in 15 minutes with the tool to remove the plug and a filter wrench, 9 quarts of 5w-30 euro synth oil and a Mann filter for $75 as it takes 1/2 qt. less oil to fill than I stated (or the quarts are full to the top being about a liter?) I am supposed to get one free change from the dealer and will use that, then I am doing it myself and saving the $80. I could buy a new Leatherman Wave at each oil change for the difference!
 

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Thanks RD for initiating this thread , and all the research you did to find a compliant oil. After having the dealer do my first change I understand where the term ' stealership ' came from . Even though 25% less than a MB oil change it was still way to much due to the extreme price of the oil and filter . I have sourced the Kendal GT 1 Euro 5W 30 ,and will now do the same for a filter. Unfortunately, these items are not as accessible here as south of the border.
 

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I do my own oil changes, I buy the oil at 10 bucks a quart from the dealer and get my baldwin oil ($21) and baldwin air filter ($19) from ww grainger. I change the air filter while doing an oil change. The light comes on at 19k miles everytime. I had no issues with the drainplug. I guess I just had the right tools in my box.
 

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I'm glad to hear someone doing the oil/filter changes at 19K miles. I am having a hard time convincing myself to go so far after having changed my gasser's oil every 5K for 40 years now. Back then many said 1K, a holdover from the days of no oil filters, to 3K which many shops have stuck too. I saw the vehicle makers were saying 5K and went to that. Now most gassers are at 10K or more! 18,500 miles is a ling way though. Perhaps 15K? I did my first at 7K to get rid of any engine break in chaff. Next at 20K then I'll see how you are doing! Thanks!
 

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My van is the diesel, the change oil message has come on at about the 19k miles mark. I am at 90k now and have done 4 oil changes
 

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You guys ever sent sample of oil off and had an analysis done? Had bypass filter on my cummins and had 80k on the amsoil and only do filter replacements and top it off.
 

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The Oil drain plug was another matter. It is a large recessed hex nut that I believe is 12mm. I made one from an old 1/2 inch hex wrench from some farm equipment I had handy. In our little town no one had a 12 mm hex wrench and 7/16 was a bit loose and I didn't dare to strip it.
Just in case anyone is shopping for a wrench...

I'm guessing the drain plug is actually 13mm and you tried a 9/16" that was loose.
7/16" = 11.11mm (smaller than 12mm)
12mm = .472"
13mm = .511" so it makes sense if you ground a 1/2" wrench a bit to make it fit
9/16" = 14.28mm

Not trying to be a jerk, just want folks to have the right tool for the job.
 

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Just got my 2 cases of Kendall in today. I can get just under 3 oil changes out of those 2 cases. I am looking at just a smidgen over 50 bucks in oil per change, so that plus the cost of filter isn't bad. I too have a hard time going the recommended mileage.

I know that synthetic oil has changed the game, because it doesn't break down from heat like conventional oil. Also, filtering technology has come a long way, so oil stays cleaner. But for me, it is cheap insurance, at less than 60 bucks per change. I plan to change every 10,000. I am getting rid of the break-in oil this weekend at 6,000.

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This makes me laugh, I thought about buying 3 cases because 9 divides into 36 evenly for 4 changes, and getting 4 filters too. That would get me to about 100,000 miles which is probably 4-5 years. I didn't as some oil changes may need to be done in AZ and some in NH. Lucky me..... I called Ram Customer Satisfaction about the free oil change the sales people promised but I never got confirmed and the nice lady said corporate did not do that it must be my dealer, BUT for my concern she would give me two free changes on my VIN! Perhaps I gotta get a lottery ticket this week?
 
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