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post #1 of 22 Old 12-30-2018, 08:38 AM Thread Starter
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Cost of a Conversion?? $5768

Conversion costs are all over the place so to help those who are planning and want some perspective I want to post up my costs. An earlier cost sheet is in my build thread. I have a 136 campervan, no under-van tanks but I do have sink, fresh and gray water, it’s fully insulated, porta pottee, solar, batteries, Espar diesel heater, awning, covers for all windows, convertible bed/couch, dinette, galley, overhead cabinets, two added awning windows, swivels on lowered bases, Fantastic powered vent, etc. It is a fully capable camper and we use it for trips from a few days to a month at a time. I did all the work with a bit ‘O help. It took me about 40-6 hour days- 250 hours to complete. I picked a simple system for building cabinets and had a couple of things already like the porta potte, two jugs, and one sheet of 3/4 plywood. I have kept adding the costs as additions and improvements have been made.
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$500 solar and $700 complete Electrical: https://www.promasterforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=71562
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Your $198.43 Miscellaneous slays me.

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Hey I kept track of it so I wanted you to know what it was. Notice I thought it would be $500! I based that on home building construction where 10% is eaten up on stuff you never expected! Anyone else have records willing to post?
I promise not to flame anyone who is on the other end of the spectrum say $15,000+-. It would be interesting to see what a big electrical system with Lithium, big sine wave, lots of 120V and an A/C unit, tanks, shower etc. sort of a class B.
I was motivated to do this as many here have planned to spend $10,000 and I can see how easy that would be to do.
Lastly the labor is an important consideration. I spent nothing there but not all of us have the skills or time to do that. Notice that without the Espar and swivel/lowered seats I could easily have done this for $3500 which is near the bottom for a campervan I believe. KOV, being cheaper than I probably did his for near that.

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No, I’m up to just about $5881.07 today but, it’s only money.

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I know I’m more than that, but I can only estimate roughly. I started with good intention keeping receipts, but soon realized it was hopeless for the same reason I question your calculations to the penny. Maybe if I were starting and stopping at zero, but the reality is:

* Materials used that were left over from previous projects that might or might not have been otherwise used in another project, and whose purchase price is long forgotten.

For example, I use a piece of wood or ply or hardware that was lying around the shop. I don’t even remember where I got it, much less how much I paid. Maybe it’s fair to say it’s "free" if otherwise that piece would never be used, but what if later for another project I have to buy again because I used this one in the van?

* Materials bought for this project that are left over and that may or may not be used in future projects.

For example, I need only one X for the van, but X comes only in packages of three. If the other two are eventually used, I should count 1/3 of the package cost toward the van. If the other two are going to gather dust in the shop til I or my heirs dispose of them, I should count the whole package cost toward the van. Problem: I have no way of knowing which is correct. Then there are those ply ceiling and wall panels, each of which required a hair more than half a sheet…

So I say, to heck with it. Spend what you feel comfortable with, given your personal financial condition. Just try to get good value for what you spend.

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I decided to keep the bills in a little box and total them up someday... needed a bigger box, plus I don't have paper bills for Amazon and eBay


My guestimate is about $7500


Don't have:

-no solar, no shower, no heater


Have:

-all around glass (not in original van), basement, custom made couch/bed cushions, cellular shades all around, 4' x 6' train layout, 2 minute foldup 8' round screen house, portapotti, flag & flagpole, ham radio and antennas, second radio for the back, pocket doors, lotsa lighting (no disco ball, yet!), blackstone griddle, Engel fridge ... all included in my estimate.


The total was about $35K less than the 24' Class A RV we almost bought.... too much plumbing & stuff!



RD, I didn't see build refreshments "expenses" included!


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Which brings up another variable. Do you count only the stuff permanently attached to the van, or do you add in the stuff bought only for the van? And what about the stuff bought for the van that ends up being used without the van? (Sous vide rump roast is amazing.)

Rough numbers for what is in the van:

Four max-size Motion windows $2,000 with shipping
Webasto $1,000
300W solar with controller and wiring $600
200Ah Trojan AGM $500
Charger and pure sine inverter $500
Other electrical stuff: $400
Thinsulate and other insulation: $650
Drawer slides $350
Engel MT45 Fridge and extra baskets $1,000
Ply: $400
Marmoleum: $100
Sportscraft swivels: $500

That's about $8,000, but I know the actual total spent is more than that because there is a lot of stuff bought but not used or used then replaced—like this is the 4th inverter. Which is why I caution not to scrimp unless you have to.

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Hi,
Our conversion is a 136 WB, high roof, with lots of windows, insulation and paneling, plumbed water and tanks, solar, ...


Details on cost, weight and labor for each part here: https://www.buildagreenrv.com/our-co...of-conversion/

$6038, 1034 lbs and 185 hours labor.

It would be nice to see how little one could spend and still have an effective conversion -- I think about $2500 could get you a pretty nice but basic conversion. No the electric fridge (use icebox), without solar, simple electric system with no AC, jug based water system, no furnace (mr. Buddy heater for extremes). Combine this with a good used PM and you might be in business for less than $20K.

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$2500 is about right Gary !

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Here is my list. I sorted it by date and it doesn't include the $9,500 we will spend when we add the Sportmobile Penthouse (Pop Top).
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