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Prime Design rear door ladder

Tapping into the endless wealth of experience here.

Any one seen one of the prime design rear door clamp on ladders? Thoughts?

I want a ladder but not sure if I want to feel silly for bolting on a cheap ladder and possibly regret it, or feel silly for spending 3x as much to not have to commit.

Either way, it seems every addition I make I love it all the more. Thanks!
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post #2 of 28 Old 04-04-2017, 05:37 PM
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So here is a competing one in stainless. https://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Ste...f_rd_i=desktop
It does need two holes drilled in the door bottom though. I think the light weight of the Eurocampers one is a plus and aluminum lasts but does get grey if not polished.
I like the idea you can install it w/o drilling, but my van has holes everywhere so what does it matter?

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There has been mention on this forum of rear door-seal problems (dust and water) and ensuing dealer service hassles. Just to be safe (paranoid), I'm going to avoid loading the doors with tires, bikes, me on a ladder, etc. I'll get a telescoping ladder instead and stow it on the inside of a back door. Might be cheaper, too.

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URL for that puppy?
So here is a competing one in stainless. https://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Ste...f_rd_i=desktop
It does need two holes drilled in the door bottom though. I think the light weight of the Eurocampers one is a plus and aluminum lasts but does get grey if not polished.
I like the idea you can install it w/o drilling, but my van has holes everywhere so what does it matter?
I have the stainless steel ladder mentioned above.

It does the job in getting me up on top (and down) from the van, and the door is strong enough to support the weight. However I will be making an improvement as soon as I get a stainless steel plate sized for the bottom of the ladder. Presently there are 2 (supplied) large sheet metal screws holding the bottom of the ladder to the van so I want to get an 1/8" or 1/4" thick SS plate to be placed between the bottom of the ladder and the door. I will also cut a rubber gasket to fit between the plate and the door and use the existing 2 holes for SS bolts instead of the sheet metal screws mentioned above. This will add more support to the bottom of the ladder and the door itself.

I will also be getting a telescoping ladder that will be stowed on the inside of one of the rear doors. This will be an Xtend and Climb 780P which is 12.5' tall when fully extended. I have found that when my roof is loaded with Kayaks and the Skybox 21 I need to be able to reach points in front of Kayaks, it's difficult to get over these from the back. I may also consider removing the SS ladder from the back door if the Xtend and Climb works out well, this will keep unwanted visitors off of the van if I am not around.

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Thanks for the insight, Gang. This forum is such a win.

What I'm hearing is a strong trend away from rear door ladders and moving towards the stow away ladders. Seems like a inexpensive gamble. Thanks for the info. Ill report back.

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I have a telescoping ladder and some foam noodle cushions to protect the paint on the PM. I saw forum member Eric's (z120pi) post and decided that his ladder would work well for me!



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His thread... lots of great info and ideas. (he picked the perfect color for a Promaster!)
https://www.promasterforum.com/forum/...ad.php?t=47409

I keep mine in my basement, and I'm sure there are other places to store it. I never thought about others deciding to climb up a ladder on the side of my van, but something worth considering! Do some research... not all telescoping ladders are created equally safe... and watch those fingers when un-telescoping!

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yeah, strangers helping themselves is a consideration I had not had.

On paper (screen), the folding ladder is the way to go. I ordered the same on Eric has. Judging by his build out, I say he's no slouch when it comes to doing it right.

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Is the reason for the rear door ladder to allow walking on the roof? Can you walk on the roof without causing dents?
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No you can't. The roof will dent.

The people who do ladders do it to get access to storage racks, etc. My ladder is used like Eric's... to access antennas, wash the van, set up a canopy (someday), etc.

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