Hey folks! So I've spent about 12 hours doing a bunch of research, and I decided to approach a well known lockpick company to help out in the quest. I'm going to post the email I wrote to them below. I have some ideas and questions for any of you who might be willing to help get this done. My PM is on order and I will not have it in my hot little hands until the end of January :crying:
Okay, first of all, anyone who has a Uconnect 5.0 RA2 (with or without a ParkView camera I'm pretty sure) can help.
Here's what I need:
1) A picture of the front (to verify correct unit) and back of your RA2 unit. This will help in a couple ways. First, I'd like to see it for once! Secondly I like to verify if there are a couple pins available in the back that may prove very useful in our quest.
2) Secondly, some volunteers willing to experiment!
Once I get some people involved, I'll post what we can do to get the ball rolling... I'm already pooped for one day!!
So here's what I wrote to them:
So I am awaiting my arrival of my new ProMaster (PM) and am looking into solutions for the lack of options with regard to entertainment, similar to the freedoms provided to me by the the MyGIG lockpick I own (more on this later). I recently joined a forum that serves PM owners exclusively. In my introduction to the forum, I mentioned the above and received feedback which is telling me that there are MANY owners who would LOVE to have more options as well. So I am hoping that you really take the following information into consideration. YOU WILL SELL HUNDEREDS!!! I have done a lot of research over the last few days, and I am certain it will assist you in a very rapid, and very cost effective (on the R&D side for you guys) solution to being able to offer us unfortunate souls a solution to being overlooked for entertainment by Mopar. It may be as simple as swapping a few pins around? A simple software flash? I am even willing to test your prototype on my vehicle if that helps...
Here's what I have (ordered):
2016 ProMaster with the Uconnect 5.0 RA2 with steering wheel controls, bluetooth hands free kit, and ParkView back-up camera. No Nav; heard it's a joke, especially for $400 (From my research, this is simply a software update. It changes the Compass mode to the Navigation mode.) I have already verified that the 2016 is no different from the 2015.
Here's what I want to accomplish:
Mirror my phone's screen and audio to the display on my 5.0. I was able to do this on my 430N in my 2015 Ram C/V by using one of your extra camera/audio inputs (TV input) provided by the lockpick and rigging up my own MHL adapter.
Here's what I know:
The 2015 Durango with the Uconnect 5.0/RA2 (Durango Stock PDF attachment) has the exact same pin configuration as the 2015 Durango with the 8.4" RA3/4 (Durango Premo PDF) with the same exact functions for each pin. Do you have any verified sales of the UCONNECT AIR V2 to customers that have the 5.0 installed in their Durango? If so this could be VERY easy to accomplish for the PM.
The 2015 Ram ProMaster with the RA2 (Promaster 5.0 PDF) has the exact same pin configurations and functions as the 2015 Durango, with a few exceptions (see Difference PDF) as follows:
PIN 1 on the Durango is for CAN C(+), whereas for the ProMaster is NO CONNECT.
PIN 2 " " is for CAN IHS(+) , " " CAN B BUS(-)
and so on...
The 2015 Durango has inputs for VIDEO SIGNAL 2, VIDEO COMMON 2, AND VIDEO SHIELD 2 on PINs 24, 25, and 26, respectively. However, the PM 5.0 shows NO CONNECT for each of these, but I haven't verified if the actiual head unit has these pins or not. I'm going to ask my buddies on the forum if they can look for me (since I don't have it yet). If they do have the pins, chances are looking very good that you could "trigger" this screen?
Please feel free to ask me any questions or to provide you with more information to get this done!
Okay, so if that doesn't work, here's another possible solution?:
I already own a MyGIG Lockpick V.5 that I took out of my 2015 Ram C/V Tradesman (Commercial version of the Dodge Caravan). I'd be nice if I could get it to work to save me a bunch of extra cash. I'm just trying to get this done any way possible!
Here's what I know with regard to the MyGIG Lockpick V.5 and 2015 Ram C/V Tradesman, looking at and compairing to the vehicle schematics:
The twisted pink pair goes from grey female (radio) connector at head unit (PINs 2 and 13) to lockpick, out of lockpick on twisted blue to the CAN IHS Bus. I will assume this is how we get the override for NAV, etc. If this is the case, then I'm not to concerned with having this work since I don't have NAV enabled on the unit. I'll use my phone for NAV.
The green pair from the white female (A/V) connector at the head unit (PIN 3, Camera Signal and PIN 4 Camera Return) goes to the lockpick, out of the lockpick, to the camera.
So it would serve to reason, that these wires would simply need to be applied to the appropriate counterpart wires on the new PM, correct? And then a possible (if it's even needed) firware flash? Something like this:
Cut the red wire (PIN 31) from the D3843A (PM 5.0) connector and attach it to the green wire leading to the lockpick.
Cut the white wire (PIN 32) " " to the green/blk wire " " .
Splice the red wire leading to the camera to the purple wire from the lockpick.
Splice the white wire " " purple/blk wire " " .
The take the "AUDIO - VIDEO - INPUT" RCA connector off of the white D3843C (C/V 430N) lockpick kit connector, PINs 12, 21, and 22, and splice them into the D3843A (PM 5.0) connector PIN 6 (AUX AUDIO RIGHT SIGNAL), PIN 16 (AUX AUDIO LEFT SIGNAL), and PIN 17 (AUX AUDIO COMMON). And the video RCA from the off of the white D3843C (C/V 430N) lockpick kit connector, PINs 9 and 10, and splice the yellow to the D3843A (PM 5.0) connector PIN 31 (CAMERA SIGNAL) via a toggle switch or relay of some sort, and splice the black RCA wire to PIN 33 (CAMERA SHIELD) ground. The only problem I see is getting the video input to trigger. This is definitely where you guys come in to play. I'm assuming it has something to do with the purple wires?
Anyway, I hope this helps you all to help us get this puppy rolling!!
Thanks so much,
Trace Roberts
All documents here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dlhsuzgvwew02tl/AABd0MDuuafocByQNwVXILa1a?dl=0
Okay, first of all, anyone who has a Uconnect 5.0 RA2 (with or without a ParkView camera I'm pretty sure) can help.
Here's what I need:
1) A picture of the front (to verify correct unit) and back of your RA2 unit. This will help in a couple ways. First, I'd like to see it for once! Secondly I like to verify if there are a couple pins available in the back that may prove very useful in our quest.
2) Secondly, some volunteers willing to experiment!
Once I get some people involved, I'll post what we can do to get the ball rolling... I'm already pooped for one day!!
So here's what I wrote to them:
So I am awaiting my arrival of my new ProMaster (PM) and am looking into solutions for the lack of options with regard to entertainment, similar to the freedoms provided to me by the the MyGIG lockpick I own (more on this later). I recently joined a forum that serves PM owners exclusively. In my introduction to the forum, I mentioned the above and received feedback which is telling me that there are MANY owners who would LOVE to have more options as well. So I am hoping that you really take the following information into consideration. YOU WILL SELL HUNDEREDS!!! I have done a lot of research over the last few days, and I am certain it will assist you in a very rapid, and very cost effective (on the R&D side for you guys) solution to being able to offer us unfortunate souls a solution to being overlooked for entertainment by Mopar. It may be as simple as swapping a few pins around? A simple software flash? I am even willing to test your prototype on my vehicle if that helps...
Here's what I have (ordered):
2016 ProMaster with the Uconnect 5.0 RA2 with steering wheel controls, bluetooth hands free kit, and ParkView back-up camera. No Nav; heard it's a joke, especially for $400 (From my research, this is simply a software update. It changes the Compass mode to the Navigation mode.) I have already verified that the 2016 is no different from the 2015.
Here's what I want to accomplish:
Mirror my phone's screen and audio to the display on my 5.0. I was able to do this on my 430N in my 2015 Ram C/V by using one of your extra camera/audio inputs (TV input) provided by the lockpick and rigging up my own MHL adapter.
Here's what I know:
The 2015 Durango with the Uconnect 5.0/RA2 (Durango Stock PDF attachment) has the exact same pin configuration as the 2015 Durango with the 8.4" RA3/4 (Durango Premo PDF) with the same exact functions for each pin. Do you have any verified sales of the UCONNECT AIR V2 to customers that have the 5.0 installed in their Durango? If so this could be VERY easy to accomplish for the PM.
The 2015 Ram ProMaster with the RA2 (Promaster 5.0 PDF) has the exact same pin configurations and functions as the 2015 Durango, with a few exceptions (see Difference PDF) as follows:
PIN 1 on the Durango is for CAN C(+), whereas for the ProMaster is NO CONNECT.
PIN 2 " " is for CAN IHS(+) , " " CAN B BUS(-)
and so on...
The 2015 Durango has inputs for VIDEO SIGNAL 2, VIDEO COMMON 2, AND VIDEO SHIELD 2 on PINs 24, 25, and 26, respectively. However, the PM 5.0 shows NO CONNECT for each of these, but I haven't verified if the actiual head unit has these pins or not. I'm going to ask my buddies on the forum if they can look for me (since I don't have it yet). If they do have the pins, chances are looking very good that you could "trigger" this screen?
Please feel free to ask me any questions or to provide you with more information to get this done!
Okay, so if that doesn't work, here's another possible solution?:
I already own a MyGIG Lockpick V.5 that I took out of my 2015 Ram C/V Tradesman (Commercial version of the Dodge Caravan). I'd be nice if I could get it to work to save me a bunch of extra cash. I'm just trying to get this done any way possible!
Here's what I know with regard to the MyGIG Lockpick V.5 and 2015 Ram C/V Tradesman, looking at and compairing to the vehicle schematics:
The twisted pink pair goes from grey female (radio) connector at head unit (PINs 2 and 13) to lockpick, out of lockpick on twisted blue to the CAN IHS Bus. I will assume this is how we get the override for NAV, etc. If this is the case, then I'm not to concerned with having this work since I don't have NAV enabled on the unit. I'll use my phone for NAV.
The green pair from the white female (A/V) connector at the head unit (PIN 3, Camera Signal and PIN 4 Camera Return) goes to the lockpick, out of the lockpick, to the camera.
So it would serve to reason, that these wires would simply need to be applied to the appropriate counterpart wires on the new PM, correct? And then a possible (if it's even needed) firware flash? Something like this:
Cut the red wire (PIN 31) from the D3843A (PM 5.0) connector and attach it to the green wire leading to the lockpick.
Cut the white wire (PIN 32) " " to the green/blk wire " " .
Splice the red wire leading to the camera to the purple wire from the lockpick.
Splice the white wire " " purple/blk wire " " .
The take the "AUDIO - VIDEO - INPUT" RCA connector off of the white D3843C (C/V 430N) lockpick kit connector, PINs 12, 21, and 22, and splice them into the D3843A (PM 5.0) connector PIN 6 (AUX AUDIO RIGHT SIGNAL), PIN 16 (AUX AUDIO LEFT SIGNAL), and PIN 17 (AUX AUDIO COMMON). And the video RCA from the off of the white D3843C (C/V 430N) lockpick kit connector, PINs 9 and 10, and splice the yellow to the D3843A (PM 5.0) connector PIN 31 (CAMERA SIGNAL) via a toggle switch or relay of some sort, and splice the black RCA wire to PIN 33 (CAMERA SHIELD) ground. The only problem I see is getting the video input to trigger. This is definitely where you guys come in to play. I'm assuming it has something to do with the purple wires?
Anyway, I hope this helps you all to help us get this puppy rolling!!
Thanks so much,
Trace Roberts
All documents here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dlhsuzgvwew02tl/AABd0MDuuafocByQNwVXILa1a?dl=0