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post #11 of 18 Old 02-17-2017, 08:07 PM
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We have two Promasters. One has the Nokian Hakkapelita which are good, but the other has BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A and are outstanding.
We have lots of snow up here, and always make it around even in 5 inches of slushy snow.
I am definitely sold.

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What kind of loading did you have in your van when you experienced the good traction? I would imagine that as you get near GVWR the situation would not be quite as attractive with more than 50% of the vehicle weight on the rear axle.
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Just a modest load of stuff in the van. All my usual camping gear plus the deep cycle batteries and the apartment fridge. 4 to 500 pounds perhaps. Flat terrain around here.

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What kind of loading did you have in your van when you experienced the good traction? I would imagine that as you get near GVWR the situation would not be quite as attractive with more than 50% of the vehicle weight on the rear axle.
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Hi
This is how the weight distribution turned out on my conversion:

Bare van
Front 3013 lbs (64%)
Rear 1717 lbs (36%)

After conversion:
Front 3167 lbs (55%)
Rear 2597 lbs (45%)

Full up with 2 people onboard and full tanks
Front 3713 lbs (55%)
Rear 3022 lbs (45%)

This is for a 136 WB, high roof, 1500 camper van conversion.
http://www.buildagreenrv.com/our-con...of-conversion/

So, for a camper van conversion you probably still end up with more weight on the front axle, but if you were hauling heavy cargo and getting up closer to full GW, it would swing to more weight on the back.

I'm purposely not rotating my Vancos to give me an excuse to get rid of them sooner

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post #14 of 18 Old 02-18-2017, 10:55 AM
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Well Im not sold..
I was spoiled by 4wd..my old fleet van was a GMC savannah 4wd...even with tons of miles and at the end of its life.. it was MUCH better in snow with just street tires..


My new fleet PM has Arctic Claw XSI snows on it..( never heard of them..very little on the internet)..
my rating , as well as the other guys in the fleet...not so good..
we have bunches of tools, weight , etc..in the fleet vehicles,,,poor performance..got stuck in a customers driveway...
overall the PM goes well over the road, and in a snow & ice free climate.. I would recommend for fleet service..


so I'll guess that lower weight , and WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION is key

The trouble with doing nothing, is that you can't tell when you are finished..
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We just finished our maiden voyage in our 2016 3500 Ext Diesel. Our build and load weights in around 8,500 with even front and rear distribution. We included a winter visit to Yosemite and lucked out in getting one of 10 campsites that had been dug out. We are on stock factory tires and I was very impressed with the winter handling. We got a bit adventurous and chained up to drive up to Badger Pass for a ski. The Promaster with chains is like a tank. I had toyed with getting a Sprinter AWD, but I don't think if buys you that much for winter driving. If it gets really nasty a just chain up.
Were you up at Badger Pass on Feb 4? We saw a promaster diesel with chains as we came off the xc ski trails, and I wanted to go check it out, but my wife vetoed due to exhaustion...
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No, we we're there on Jan. 27. I too always want to check out other Promasters whenever I see them. Glacier point is an incredible XC ski, although the rental skis up there not so great.....
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Hi
This is how the weight distribution turned out on my conversion:

Bare van
Front 3013 lbs (64%)
Rear 1717 lbs (36%)

After conversion:
Front 3167 lbs (55%)
Rear 2597 lbs (45%)

Full up with 2 people onboard and full tanks
Front 3713 lbs (55%)
Rear 3022 lbs (45%)

This is for a 136 WB, high roof, 1500 camper van conversion.
http://www.buildagreenrv.com/our-con...of-conversion/

So, for a camper van conversion you probably still end up with more weight on the front axle, but if you were hauling heavy cargo and getting up closer to full GW, it would swing to more weight on the back.

I'm purposely not rotating my Vancos to give me an excuse to get rid of them sooner

Gary
How did get the weight on each wheel?

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How did get the weight on each wheel?
Hi,
Our local metal recycling place has a scale, and they don't mind people using it to weigh their vehicles. I weighed front axle and back axle separately to get the front to back distribution.

I weighed it near empty and then again after conversion.
Too get to the exact configurations listed, I added the weight for things like people, water and propane beaming them out to the front and rear axle according to where they are in the van.

As I did the conversion, I tried to keep track of the weight of each item and if I add these to the first empty weighing it agrees within about 60 lbs to the actual end weighing -- not too bad

Gary

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