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post #1 of 90 Old 12-29-2016, 10:13 PM Thread Starter
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So the package came today. It was a blow to the gut that I paid $86 sales tax--the company has a site in Oklahoma I didn't know about.

It was another blow that while the wiring harness runs to the battery and to the switch are each 13 feet long, the wire to the fuel pump is only 17 inches!! Also, the kit does not include any interior ducting or the outlet grill. Therefore, I may be forced to buy the grossly overpriced RV Application kit. So the guy was wrong that 5010205A contains everything needed for an install.

The good part is that the heater appears to fit on the piece of flat floor just inboard of the passenger wheel well.

We spent the evening sorting the stuff and figuring what goes where. Fortunately, the connectors are all one-of-a-kind, so at least that should be about impossible to screw up.
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Fuel pump connections

The kit I bought (from U.K. Via eBay) shipped with the fuel pump cable, coming from the heater, without the plug installed. The actual wires had the pins installed but the plastic plug was not on. The plastic plug won't fit through the intake hole with the plug installed. Not the best design since would be hard to take the plug apart once it was assembled if needed to remove the heater. The kit also came with about 10 or so feet of two conductor cable and the parts to terminate it to build a fuel pump power extension cable. You cut the cable to length, then crimped the pins on (I soldered them as well) then inserted the pins in the plastic plugs.
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http://webastoliterature.businesscat...eatatevo40.pdf <-- the North American literature claims item (3. Hot Air Outlet/Ducting) IS included with the kit, a week or two ago I corresponded with a U.K. supplier who does not sell the ducting items separately due to its high volume/low weight as that is not cost-efficient for their flat-rate shipping purposes, perhaps the items were included in your suppliers shipment as separate bulk 'kit pieces' and overlooked by the shift/person who fulfilled your order?

Could maybe contacting: Webasto Thermo & Comfort, North America, Inc. 15083 North Road Fenton, Michigan 48430 Toll Free: 800-860-7866 and ask about the disparity save you some money? They say it should be included...

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I can’t help you with the sales tax unless a move to NH is in the works? Take the heater to your local auto parts store and see if they have a length of automotive heat/AC duct. Cars are metric, the hose is metric, 90mm I think. I believe I have a length left from my Espar instal and they are probably the same. I can check on January 16th. As for the outlet grill there may be something on ebay, see:
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Thanks to all of you. Great info.

Webasto is closed for the holiday, and my salesman is off. I'm headed off next week for >three weeks of trips, so this install is delayed until early February. I will leave the van as-is for now.

dms, your description makes sense. That way, the cord would be the right length with no extra. Is there anything special about the cord itself? IOW, maybe I could get just the fittings. Are you sure the solder is a good idea given the vehicle vibration?

RD, this ducting is reminding me of setting up the dust collection in my shop. It is 60mm.

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I second the solder connection! Heater duct has an aluminized interior can stretch but the process is similar just duct and clamps. How much duct will you need? BTW find a local electrician or plumber and ask to borrow their Greenlee chassis punch for the holes in the van, super slick, or if you want to borrow mine PM and I can send it along.
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I have the super large ones too, up to about 2-1/2 inch or so.
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BTW find a local electrician or plumber and ask to borrow their Greenlee chassis punch for the holes in the van, super slick, or if you want to borrow mine PM and I can send it along.
A Unibit is also a good clean and easy way to make correct sized holes. Its what I've been using on BoB, haven't had any problems with it.

https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-10193A-...eywords=unibit

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Probably right about the soldering but did't like the look of the crimps since didn't have the right tool. Nothing special about the wire, looks like about 14 gauge stranded appliance cord, 2 conductor with a round covering.
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I just spoke to Webasto Tech Support. Lordy, Lordy, what a super nice guy! For ducting, he suggested I go to any place that services big rigs and ask for a scrap of ducting since I don't need much, and they might have a grill lying around, too. Big truck graveyards are another source--I've read of folks buying the units from graveyards, too, but I'm not that brave.

He said that especially with gas, lean is better. The manual procedure is not precise, but precision is not necessary. He suggested adjusting to 8:00 for above 10,000 ft and perhaps just leaving it there. Every time it is turned on, it needs to run on high at least 15 minutes even if you're sweating.
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Dang, I was sure looking forward to the details of your install this week. So have a great and safe trip.

Hoping your thread becomes the "authority" for the purchase, install, and operation of these units. Good info is just in so many different places.Here is one operation question I haven't seen answered yet: The standard temperature control knob is referred to as a rheostat. The continuous settings are thin to wide red bands. Are the different setting positions thermostatically controlled to hold a desired temperature or does it just set a dosing level for the fuel pump, thus setting a constant heat output? The latter would not be ideal. Then the SmartTemp controller upgrade may be worth it. The operation manual says set the dial for the desired temp but that is open to interpretation.
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