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post #1 of 18 Old 08-08-2016, 08:49 PM Thread Starter
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Left over 2014

What's a good price on a left over 2014?
It's a 2500 diesel. MSRP is just under 40k.

I currently own 2 gas 2014s. So just a little hesitant getting a diesel as never had one.
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post #2 of 18 Old 08-08-2016, 09:40 PM
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I am an advocate of the 3.0 FCA diesel PM. Since about 4/2015 they have been almost faultless as reported here. Even most 2014 owners did fine too, but not all. I would warn you that DEF has a lifetime and that van has expired DEF in its tank. That DEF injection system gave some trouble in more than a few of the ‘14s. Any 2014 diesel needs to have its ECM software updated to the latest spec. There were some EGR, and low turbo boost issues that may have been computer problems but could cause that van to spend many days or weeks in the shop until FCA gets it right. If you can risk not having it for the time it may take to get it right negotiate a price in the “well under 30K $” IMHO.

I would not accept it until 1. the DEF is siphoned out and replaced with fresh prior to driving it. 2. The prep tech updates the software to the latest flash and you get a service report (which they can make). 3. The dealer has an employee drive the van for 600+ miles on your deposit and good faith of purchase if it is fine. Then and only then would I sign for that vehicle and hand over the check. Lets face it the dealer is probably going to have to do these things anyway but after they have your money and you have a van in their garage (or out back waiting for parts).

Get through these start-up issues and it is a great van, you will love it so much more than the gasser I think. Others will chime in.

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Thank you for the very detailed response!! I will definitely make the dealer change the DEF and do any TSB or recalls.

The van currently has 226 miles so Im sure were using it as a demo/run parts around van.

So I know for future what does the DEF cost? How often does it need to be filled up?

I definitely don't want to buy it and have it sit in the shop. So hopefully all this can be addressed.
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DEF is so cheap you don't even have to think about it!

2014, High Top/159 WB, 2500 gas Promaster fully converted for camping.
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$7.88 for a 2-1/2 gallon container at Walmart and 1 gal goes about 1500 miles. It holds 5+ gal. It is insignificant as KOV says. You should get 23 mpg of diesel using the van for mixed use in and between cities. Many of us get 27 mpg traveling lightly loaded. It is quiet, powerful enough and pulls like a freight engine. It is also an older design built for commercial use and has a reputation for incredible lifetime. The ‘14s were beta testing the emissions system I think, but now it is prime time good to go!

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Looks like I'm adding a new van to the fleet. Fingers crossed the diesel doesn't let me down.

Got dealer to change the fluid, doing all tsb, recalls and updates right now.
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Congratulations! I expect it will be fine if the dealer didn’t get CEL’s in that 255 miles or so. My dealer knew about the DEF issue last July and acted accordingly on a van I ordered and had sat for only 2 months in MX and TX and so it has been faultless having gotten all the TSB and updates when in for service.

It would be great if you could report back once in a while, reminding us of its long sit, how it has worked out and comparing the diesel and gas as many here want to know more about that comparison.
Be well and safe, Capt'n

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I am an advocate of the 3.0 FCA diesel PM.
You definitely are. I think you've stepped into the 'position' that Adrian had going a year ago. Well done...

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It can be hard as you get called names if you disagree with opinions, Adrian was better at it but I believe somebody needs to speak up. Many sprinter and other diesel owners have poisoned the water due to their bad experiences. This one is a different product which does not share the others' issues (anymore!) since FCA seems to have it sorted out.
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I will definitely keep thread updated as time goes on.

The gasser vans have been great mechanically. Just the little bugs of doors, wipers etc are stuff that drives me crazy.

54k on one so far. 159 WB high top 2500
21k on the other one. 136 WB high top 1500

Both averaging 15-16mpg.
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